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You should be praying more conservative move TO Oregon!
It's never going to work for Kommiefornia but maybe we can save OR. The only way Oregon get’s saved is if every drug addict, addle minded homeless person and Liberal dipshît kills each other. 😎 Even with the methods I can think of, it ain't happenin' bro. Just enjoy your time there I guess. And let the snarky comments from the folks back East roll off your back like all the rainwater you folks usually get.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Would the pharmacist care to share with us, from your wealth of knowledge about the increased cardiovascular risk for regular NSAID users. Have you and experience with this? How much reading and research have you done on it? Pharmacists need to stick with counting pills and sticking labels on bottles.
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You should be praying more conservative move TO Oregon!
It's never going to work for Kommiefornia but maybe we can save OR. The only way Oregon get’s saved is if every drug addict, addle minded homeless person and Liberal dipshît kills each other. 😎 Even with the methods I can think of, it ain't happenin' bro. Just enjoy your time there I guess. And let the snarky comments from the folks back East roll off your back like all the rainwater you folks usually get. Deflave loves me...He just hates Oregon. Remember to take your medicine if your pain is going to prevent you from doing what you enjoy. 😎
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It really chaps my arse when the pharmacists think they know better than the doctors. My best friend and long time hunting and fishing buddy was an M.D. He once prescribed cough syrup with codeine to a terminal cancer patient only to have a self righteous pharmacist who thought she knew better report him to the state for prescribing codeine cough syrup. My friend then spent two years and over $25,000.00 defending himself from the state medical board. When a glorified animated pill counter thinks they know better than an M.D. with nearly 40 years experience, and can with one email or phone call destroy a doctors reputation and life, without so much as a courtesy phone call to the doctor, that's a problem.
. You sure do attribute a lot of power to a lowly pharmacist. I don't know the story, but I promise you there's more to it than a single call from a pharmacist. We don't weld as much power as you think we do. I suppose all these docs I have every day calling and asking my medication advice should go be real doctors too.
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Unless you have lived in chronic pain for several years,your opinion is invalid... Unless you have lived in chronic pain for several years,your opinion is invalid... Burn !
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You should be praying more conservative move TO Oregon!
It's never going to work for Kommiefornia but maybe we can save OR. The only way Oregon get’s saved is if every drug addict, addle minded homeless person and Liberal dipshît kills each other. 😎 Would you care to share from your wealth of knowledge about the increased cardiovascular risk for regular NSAID users. Have you and experience with this? How much reading and research have you done on it? Pharmacists need to stick with counting pills and sticking labels on bottles. Ease off the throttle or bottle stud...You look stupid and your reading comprehension sucks! Re-read and pay attention to any big words I may have used 😎
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The last I'll say on it as it seems you really don't want to hear differing opinions other than your own.
I don't blame the patient at all and I'm not being facetious when I say I understand. I've seen a lot of lives turn for the worse from opiates. I have a problem with docs who just do what's easy instead of what's right.
I've been able to witness the journey of many an opiate user over several years. Usually, the dose goes up and the complaints of pain either stay the same or increase. The miserable bastard persona starts to rear it's head. Try to have a discussion of what the drugs are doing to them almost always ends in an inappropriate emotional outburst.
I've seen many people have a worse quality of life because of opiates for many reasons. They are constantly in pain and taking high doses of opiates. They have become accustomed to both and won't even try to switch therapy to decrease pain and decrease narcotics. It's a very illogical process, but it repeats itself daily.
You want your opiates. Again, I do understand that. I really do, because I see it every day. It's one of the worst parts of my job. Being paid to be a part of people's downfall. Don't think I don't feel some responsibility for it. Thankfully, younger docs are learning better ways of managing pain that will hopefully lead to a better quality of life for the patient. I don't need the government to form my opinions because i go with what my eyes are telling me,
Opiates have a place in medicine, but it's not the current large scale use for everything and anything. I bet people make fun of you almost daily directly to your smug face 😆🤣
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It really chaps my arse when the pharmacists think they know better than the doctors. My best friend and long time hunting and fishing buddy was an M.D. He once prescribed cough syrup with codeine to a terminal cancer patient only to have a self righteous pharmacist who thought she knew better report him to the state for prescribing codeine cough syrup. My friend then spent two years and over $25,000.00 defending himself from the state medical board. When a glorified animated pill counter thinks they know better than an M.D. with nearly 40 years experience, and can with one email or phone call destroy a doctors reputation and life, without so much as a courtesy phone call to the doctor, that's a problem.
. You sure do attribute a lot of power to a lowly pharmacist. I don't know the story, but I promise you there's more to it than a single call from a pharmacist. We don't weld as much power as you think we do. I suppose all these docs I have every day calling and asking my medication advice should go be real doctors too. I do know the story completely, as I was involved with the legal defense, it is exactly as I described it. A recently graduated pharmacist made the report, the name of the pharmacy and pharmacist came out during the two year legal defense. In the end my friend was found to have done nothing wrong. You and the rest of your ilk need to stay in your own lane, counting pills, and leave the real medical decisions to the grown ups.
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You should be praying more conservative move TO Oregon!
It's never going to work for Kommiefornia but maybe we can save OR. The only way Oregon get’s saved is if every drug addict, addle minded homeless person and Liberal dipshît kills each other. 😎 Would you care to share from your wealth of knowledge about the increased cardiovascular risk for regular NSAID users. Have you and experience with this? How much reading and research have you done on it? Pharmacists need to stick with counting pills and sticking labels on bottles. Ease off the throttle or bottle stud...You look stupid and your reading comprehension sucks! Re-read and pay attention to any big words I may have used 😎 I quoted you in error, my reply was not directed towards you.
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It really chaps my arse when the pharmacists think they know better than the doctors. My best friend and long time hunting and fishing buddy was an M.D. He once prescribed cough syrup with codeine to a terminal cancer patient only to have a self righteous pharmacist who thought she knew better report him to the state for prescribing codeine cough syrup. My friend then spent two years and over $25,000.00 defending himself from the state medical board. When a glorified animated pill counter thinks they know better than an M.D. with nearly 40 years experience, and can with one email or phone call destroy a doctors reputation and life, without so much as a courtesy phone call to the doctor, that's a problem.
. You sure do attribute a lot of power to a lowly pharmacist. I don't know the story, but I promise you there's more to it than a single call from a pharmacist. We don't weld as much power as you think we do. I suppose all these docs I have every day calling and asking my medication advice should go be real doctors too. I do know the story completely, as I was involved with he case, it is exactly as I described it. You and the rest of your ilk need to stay in your own lane, counting pills, and leave the real medical decisions to the grown ups. If, and I don't believe it, but if that's all it was, your state medical board is a bunch of pussies. No doctor is going to investigate another doctor over a bottle of codeine.
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It really chaps my arse when the pharmacists think they know better than the doctors. My best friend and long time hunting and fishing buddy was an M.D. He once prescribed cough syrup with codeine to a terminal cancer patient only to have a self righteous pharmacist who thought she knew better report him to the state for prescribing codeine cough syrup. My friend then spent two years and over $25,000.00 defending himself from the state medical board. When a glorified animated pill counter thinks they know better than an M.D. with nearly 40 years experience, and can with one email or phone call destroy a doctors reputation and life, without so much as a courtesy phone call to the doctor, that's a problem.
. You sure do attribute a lot of power to a lowly pharmacist. I don't know the story, but I promise you there's more to it than a single call from a pharmacist. We don't weld as much power as you think we do. I suppose all these docs I have every day calling and asking my medication advice should go be real doctors too. I do know the story completely, as I was involved with he case, it is exactly as I described it. You and the rest of your ilk need to stay in your own lane, counting pills, and leave the real medical decisions to the grown ups. If, and I don't believe it, but if that's all it was, your state medical board is a bunch of pussies. No doctor is going to investigate another doctor over a bottle of codeine. You just called me a liar without ever having met me, you must be a real peach to deal with as a pharmacist. It was Washington state, the medical board was atrocious to deal with, guilty until you prove otherwise. At the same time my friends case was happening, the state suspended a doctor who provided emergency aid to his son while in the mountains, allowing them to get out of the mountains and get to a hospital, in a situation that would have otherwise required evacuation by helicopter. Apparently, the state felt it better to be rescued by helicopter than be patched up by the physician father in an emergency. Again, stay in your own lane, count away and stick labels on bottles.
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You all take your meds and get along
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It was Washington state, the medical board was atrocious to deal with, guilty until you prove otherwise. At the same time my friends case was happening, the state suspended a doctor who provided emergency aid to his son while in the mountains, allowing them to get out of the mountains and get to a hospital, in a situation that would have otherwise required evacuation by helicopter. Apparently, the state felt it better to be rescued by helicopter than be patched up by the physician father in an emergency.
What year was this? I’ve got to look this one up. What in the hell would the physician be suspended for? Crazy medical boards notwithstanding, there has got to be more to this story.
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It really chaps my arse when the pharmacists think they know better than the doctors. My best friend and long time hunting and fishing buddy was an M.D. He once prescribed cough syrup with codeine to a terminal cancer patient only to have a self righteous pharmacist who thought she knew better report him to the state for prescribing codeine cough syrup. My friend then spent two years and over $25,000.00 defending himself from the state medical board. When a glorified animated pill counter thinks they know better than an M.D. with nearly 40 years experience, and can with one email or phone call destroy a doctors reputation and life, without so much as a courtesy phone call to the doctor, that's a problem.
. You sure do attribute a lot of power to a lowly pharmacist. I don't know the story, but I promise you there's more to it than a single call from a pharmacist. We don't weld as much power as you think we do. I suppose all these docs I have every day calling and asking my medication advice should go be real doctors too. I do know the story completely, as I was involved with he case, it is exactly as I described it. You and the rest of your ilk need to stay in your own lane, counting pills, and leave the real medical decisions to the grown ups. If, and I don't believe it, but if that's all it was, your state medical board is a bunch of pussies. No doctor is going to investigate another doctor over a bottle of codeine. You just called me a liar without ever having met me, you must be a real peach to deal with as a pharmacist. It was Washington state, the medical board was atrocious to deal with, guilty until you prove otherwise. At the same time my friends case was happening, the state suspended a doctor who provided emergency aid to his son while in the mountains, allowing them to get out of the mountains and get to a hospital, in a situation that would have otherwise required evacuation by helicopter. Apparently, the state felt it better to be rescued by helicopter than be patched up by the physician father in an emergency. Again, stay in your own lane, count away and stick labels on bottles. Doesn’t WA State assign or grant more privilege/power to pharmacists than other states? Co workers wife graduated pharm school and took a job at a hospital out here. To hear her tell it, she had her hands full making sure all the dumbazz doctors listened to her every word and we’re not killing their patients. She was really quite impressed with herself. Lol.
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Demerol, sweet demerol. I had a kidney stone but had no Idea what it was. The ER nurse said she had babies and kidney stones and would rather have a baby. I said "Thanks lady, now can I have something for the pain?" She started the demerol and I felt goood. But the pain was ten miles away. Still there but I didn't give a ..... They took the stone out in surgery the next day. Said it was over 5mm and that's why it wouldn't pass. Just blocked the kidney. I drink lots of water today. Wife gets aggravated. I have to pzzzzz a lot. Who cares? Don't want that kind of pain again. I also don't want addiction. Be Well, RZ.
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I have been taking 5mg. Of oxycodone for 7years . I have mind numing headaches since my cancer treatment. Some times I can go weeks without taking it then there are days when I will take as many as 5 pills the pain gets bad at times. I went under hospice care 2 months ago my nurse wants me to start using morphine .I told her no I'm not ready for that. Prayers for you sir.
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30 mg Codeine My dad was prescribed that when he fractured his spine recently.
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I wouldn't take opiods for anything. If I'm in that much pain I'll just walk to the top of a landfill and blow my brains out.
That being said, the idiotic regulating of them is just another example of how fugking stupid our government has become.
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As an aside from you folks dealing with this, my wife hurt her leg badly last year. Nothing broken but a sprain and black and blue from hip to ankle for several weeks. (yes, I fixed the porch) The hospital advised her to use a combination of 200 mg of ibuprofen and 500 mg of acetaminophen instead of prescribing an opiate. https://www.mndental.org/files/NSAI...s-than-opioids-A-Summary-of-Evidence.pdfShe said it was amazing and worked really well without the side affects of opiates and apparently the combo cancels out the side affects of both the ibuprofen and the acetaminophen. I don't remember how often she took them but it was sure a better option.
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3 knee surgeries. 5 shoulder surgeries. Took opiates for the first day or so then flushed the rest. I kept a few on reserve after my shoulder replacement. I found if I took one a few hours before a PT session that I was able to do a little more. I still suffer chronic knee and shoulder pain. Chronic daily headaches as well. I just play the hand I am dealt. Some days are better than others.
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