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Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules.The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution. Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above. Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says: Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
… This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution. Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states. https://www.scribd.com/document/487348469/TX-v-State-Motion-2020-12-07-FINAL#from_embedhttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/...sconsin-at-supreme-court-election-rules/
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To me this gets to the heart of the matter.
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Don't mess with Texas.
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For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
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Thanks to Texas for representing all of us. I contacted all my elected officials except my Governor, who is a commie. Only one said they would do anything. The rest begged off.
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Don't mess with Texas.
Rooting for y'all. It ain’t just for Texas.
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And the question remains the same; Will any court take on a decision that nullifies the elections on those states?
What are the odds??????????????????????? 30/70?
$64 million dollar Q.
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To me this gets to the heart of the matter. Yes, it does.
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And the question remains the same; Will any court take on a decision that nullifies the elections on those states?
What are the odds??????????????????????? 30/70?
$64 million dollar Q.
MM The reason being is the treasonous traitors infiltrated all over the place. Judicial system included.
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And the question remains the same; Will any court take on a decision that nullifies the elections on those states?
What are the odds??????????????????????? 30/70?
$64 million dollar Q.
MM Well, they are on notice. The reason this case is very significant is because it sets the stage for articles of secession or a list of grievances. Texas is telling the court that they don’t think that the election is legitimate and it is giving the court an out to set aside the popular election on very narrow constitutional grounds. If the court refuses to set it aside, then it is essentially asking Texas and all these other states to abide by an election they do not think is legitimate. So, what is the incentive for Texas or any other state to remain in a union where illegitimate elections become the norm? This suit fights fire with fire. The court may not want to be seen as deciding an election. On the other hand, if it refuses to do anything, it is lighting the fuse of secession. The middle ground and easy way out for the court, and the path asked for in the complaint, is to simply let the legislatures decide this one. It’s constitutional and the court doesn’t even have to decide if fraud occurred. It can simply agree with Texas and argue that the laws weren’t followed. Constitutional crises averted for now.
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It’s about time. Thank you Texas for having the balls to file this suit. I can’t believe anyone thinks sleepy Joe got 80 million votes legally. Still can’t believe all the people pushing this fraud. I guess the Deep State swamp has deeper roots than we thought. Go Texas !!!
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And the question remains the same; Will any court take on a decision that nullifies the elections on those states?
What are the odds??????????????????????? 30/70?
$64 million dollar Q.
MM Well, they are on notice. The reason this case is very significant is because it sets the stage for articles of secession or a list of grievances. Texas is telling the court that they don’t think that the election is legitimate and it is giving the court an out to set aside the popular election on very narrow constitutional grounds. If the court refuses to set it aside, then it is essentially asking Texas and all these other states to abide by an election they do not think is legitimate. So, what is the incentive for Texas or any other state to remain in a union where illegitimate elections become the norm? This suit fights fire with fire. The court may not want to be seen as deciding an election. On the other hand, if it refuses to do anything, it is lighting the fuse of secession. The middle ground and easy way out for the court, and the path asked for in the complaint, is to simply let the legislatures decide this one. It’s constitutional and the court doesn’t even have to decide if fraud occurred. It can simply agree with Texas and argue that the laws weren’t followed. Constitutional crises averted for now. I would hope balkanization would be the biggest fear the Court could have...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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And the question remains the same; Will any court take on a decision that nullifies the elections on those states?
What are the odds??????????????????????? 30/70?
$64 million dollar Q.
MM Well, they are on notice. The reason this case is very significant is because it sets the stage for articles of secession or a list of grievances. Texas is telling the court that they don’t think that the election is legitimate and it is giving the court an out to set aside the popular election on very narrow constitutional grounds. If the court refuses to set it aside, then it is essentially asking Texas and all these other states to abide by an election they do not think is legitimate. So, what is the incentive for Texas or any other state to remain in a union where illegitimate elections become the norm? This suit fights fire with fire. The court may not want to be seen as deciding an election. On the other hand, if it refuses to do anything, it is lighting the fuse of secession. The middle ground and easy way out for the court, and the path asked for in the complaint, is to simply let the legislatures decide this one. It’s constitutional and the court doesn’t even have to decide if fraud occurred. It can simply agree with Texas and argue that the laws weren’t followed. Constitutional crises averted for now. I would hope balkanization would be the biggest fear the Court could have... The biggest fear that the Court has is if someone has another Andy Jackson moment and tells them to stuff it. That’s how the Court loses its power. This case by Texas now forces them to make a choice BUT it gives them a narrow constitutional path to claim that they aren’t making that choice, just merely falling back on the procedures outlined by the Constitution for matters like this.
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The biggest fear that the Court has is if someone has another Andy Jackson moment and tells them to stuff it. That’s how the Court loses its power. This case by Texas now forces them to make a choice BUT it gives them a narrow constitutional path to claim that they aren’t making that choice, just merely calling back on the procedures outline by the Constitution for matters like this.
When you boil it down, the actions that flipped this election WERE unconstitutional. But I sure don't think that the judiciary of any sort will not put partisanship away long enough to rule in favor of the constitution. They didn't go to all the time, trouble and expense to steal the election, only to have success ripped from their grasp... They have all the bases covered.
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God bless Texas. The media will paint them as madmen and the libs in Houston, Austin, and SA will say this doesn’t represent them. Well, it sure as hell represents me and many in this corrupt POS I live in so onward Texas!
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God bless Texas. The media will paint them as madmen and the libs in Houston, Austin, and SA will say this doesn’t represent them. Well, it sure as hell represents me and many in this corrupt POS I live in so onward Texas! You forgot DFW. But yes, they can all GFT.
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And the question remains the same; Will any court take on a decision that nullifies the elections on those states?
What are the odds??????????????????????? 30/70?
$64 million dollar Q.
MM Well, they are on notice. The reason this case is very significant is because it sets the stage for articles of secession or a list of grievances. Texas is telling the court that they don’t think that the election is legitimate and it is giving the court an out to set aside the popular election on very narrow constitutional grounds. If the court refuses to set it aside, then it is essentially asking Texas and all these other states to abide by an election they do not think is legitimate. So, what is the incentive for Texas or any other state to remain in a union where illegitimate elections become the norm? This suit fights fire with fire. The court may not want to be seen as deciding an election. On the other hand, if it refuses to do anything, it is lighting the fuse of secession. The middle ground and easy way out for the court, and the path asked for in the complaint, is to simply let the legislatures decide this one. It’s constitutional and the court doesn’t even have to decide if fraud occurred. It can simply agree with Texas and argue that the laws weren’t followed. Constitutional crises averted for now. Agreed on all accounts; I guess we'll know soon enough. If the SCOTUS agrees & the state legislatures provide electors that eventually confirm DJT, things are going to get real interesting, real fast, & maybe get the direction of the country settled, at least for a while, as I don't think a repeat of last summer's festivities is going to be allowed to go on unabated. MM
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But I sure don't think that the judiciary of any sort will not put partisanship away long enough to rule in favor of the constitution.
That's my fear................but if it goes directly to SCOTUS & they agree to even hear it, we con only hope that there are 5 people there that have not been bought & have enough integrity to uphold the Constitution. But it is surely not a slam dunk, by any means, although it really should be. MM
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