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Yep, they'll stick up for the muzzies, but not the Baptist or Catholics.
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Yep, they'll stick up for the muzzies, but not the Baptist or Catholics. Do you have a link to the lawsuit where Baptists. Or Catholics were illegally strong armed by the FBI ?
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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This is a good ruling. It works to protect everyone. Until we start holding agents personally accountable for their unconstitutional behavior it won't stop.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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I don't like the strong arm tactics, but as of now that's the LEO way.
This isn't really about religion.
The cops tried to get someone to turn informant, and they refused.
So they cops "punished them.
It's the normal procedure.
Catch a kid with one joint, threaten him with 3-5 if he doesn't tell where he got it.
Grab his buddy who sold him one of the three he had. Possession with intent...
If they talk, little to no charges, if not, Slammer!
Did personal conviction keep the Muzzies from talking? Or are the conspirators?
Maybe Tyrell and Tyrone won't talk "Cuz dey Preacha done tol me not ta say
A dam ting!"
Will it work for them?
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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This is a good ruling. It works to protect everyone. Until we start holding agents personally accountable for their unconstitutional behavior it won't stop. Maybe this ruling will spill over to the Carter Page lawsuits?
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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I don't like the strong arm tactics, but as of now that's the LEO way.
This isn't really about religion.
The cops tried to get someone to turn informant, and they refused.
So they cops "punished them.
It's the normal procedure.
Catch a kid with one joint, threaten him with 3-5 if he doesn't tell where he got it.
Grab his buddy who sold him one of the three he had. Possession with intent...
If they talk, little to no charges, if not, Slammer!
Did personal conviction keep the Muzzies from talking? Or are the conspirators?
Maybe Tyrell and Tyrone won't talk "Cuz dey Preacha done tol me not ta say
A dam ting!"
Will it work for them? Big difference between charging someone with a crime and trial by jury and taking right with no due process.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately .
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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The agency and agent should be held responsible. A hit to both the agency budget and an individual's pocketbook might have everyone putting a bit more thought into their actions.
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable. Green card carying Muzzies have no contitutional rights as far as Im concerned .
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable. Green card carying Muzzies have no contitutional rights as far as Im concerned . And you are wrong.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable. Green card carying Muzzies have no contitutional rights as far as Im concerned . You are an idiot.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable. Green card carying Muzzies have no contitutional rights as far as Im concerned . Stupid pesky Bill of Rights, forbidding the government any power to restrict anyone to exercise their religion! What a bunch of morons those guys were! Of course the FBI should be allowed to persecute certain groups based on religions that I don't agree with!! Then things would be fine!
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable. Green card carying Muzzies have no contitutional rights as far as Im concerned . Stupid pesky Bill of Rights, forbidding the government any power to restrict anyone to exercise their religion! What a bunch of morons those guys were! Of course the FBI should be allowed to persecute certain groups based on religions that I don't agree with!! Then things would be fine! maybe after the "Muzzies" they can get started on the Mormons and Southern Baptists? I mean, no coffee, and no dancing? What's up with that?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Does this open the door for agents of all government agencies being held personally responsible for civil rights violations?
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Our supreme court sucks ass lately . So you don’t think FBI and other agents of our government that violate our Constitutional Rights should be held accountable. Green card carying Muzzies have no contitutional rights as far as Im concerned . Stupid pesky Bill of Rights, forbidding the government any power to restrict anyone to exercise their religion! What a bunch of morons those guys were! Of course the FBI should be allowed to persecute certain groups based on religions that I don't agree with!! Then things would be fine! maybe after the "Muzzies" they can get started on the Mormons and Southern Baptists? I mean, no coffee, and no dancing? What's up with that? And Lutherans. Especially those Green Card carrying Swedish bikini model Lutherans.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Does this open the door for agents of all government agencies being held personally responsible for civil rights violations? I think so, as in the Carter Page lawsuits.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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