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Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Diesel
When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.

We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom.
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The alternative at this stage of the game is very simple.

Balkanization.


Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness.



Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.


No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.


Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.


So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.




His plan seems to be for red states to declare themselves "constitutional 2A sanctuaries" while they still enforce/uphold all the unconstitutional Federal gun laws already on the books, background checks/4473's/tax stamps for suppressors etc.etc... That'll show those fuuckin commies.

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Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Diesel
When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.

We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom.
.





The alternative at this stage of the game is very simple.

Balkanization.


Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness.



Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.


No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.


Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.


So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.







And who leads all these nobel causes you keep espousing?

So,,,,people in the Blue states stand by and allow themselves to be starved?

You do realize that “they “ make the rules in those Blue states?

I’ve already told you ,,,,Balkanization ,,,,,and it’s already here.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
[quote=Old_Toot][quote=Diesel]When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.

We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom

Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness.



Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.


No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.


Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.


So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.




His plan seems to be for red states to declare themselves "constitutional 2A sanctuaries" while they still enforce/uphold all the unconstitutional Federal gun laws already on the books, background checks/4473's/tax stamps for suppressors etc.etc... That'll show those fuuckin commies.



Hey, Bro, come on down to 2A Sanctuary Louisiana.

Let me take you there

Via:

www.louisianasportsman.com

Click on:
Classifieds

Click on:
Browse

Scroll down to the category:
Hunting

Scroll down through Hunting:
About midway of the category

Click on:
Guns

There’s only 1300 or so for sale.

How’s things up commie, 2A default, restrictive New York ?

I know you’re absolutely loving it up there.

You bring your handgun, concealed into NYC?
How about south of you in New Jersey?

Laffin at you, Brother.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
[ They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want.


BH, that's BS. Why not? Original intent of 2A is the possession of military weapons in the hands of the MILITIA. That's defined as all citizens.

Idiots who want 'common sense gun safety laws' are neither patriots nor conservatives. They are either useful idiots or malevolent collaborators.

Time to live the Constitution as written.

If you're not responsible enough to know which guns you should own, don't own them. But refrain from trying to dictate to me or any other citizen what we have a right to do. People like you masquerading as conservatives on this Forum are worse than the Marxist garbage who at least spew their stupidity in the open.

Enough of this criticizing every comment about the way forward. If someone has a better idea, put it forward or hold your peace.


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Originally Posted by Triggernosis
They won't do it this directly. They will continue to chip-chip away, just like they've done the last 50 years.
Exactly. And I believe most of their assault will come in the form of additional taxes...on incomes, property, and things they don't like such as firearms and ammo.


Trggern,

I can tell from your post that you've had the good fortune of living your entire life in the free society the USA had been until recently.

Those of us who have experienced the imposition of a tyranny, the abrogation of all rights - starting with confiscation of guns to render the people defenseless - beg to differ with your assessment.

Joe's handlers recognize that with the courts neutered through coercive violence, the House and WH in their evil hands, time is of the essence. They also believe that patriots are all talk and no show when it comes to defending our inalienable (GOD GIVEN) rights.

As a start, there will be an all out attack on the 2A, including targeted raids, SWAT assaults on individual gun owners to set an example, a few highly publicized killings of those who resist - portrayed as criminals with arsenals.

It is painful to realize for many of us on this Forum who have spent a lifetime abiding by the Rule of Law to build and defend this Nation that our last few months or years may call on us to defend the Constitutional Republic against these domestic enemies who now may hold power. Although our reason and human nature rail against accepting this reality, "facts are stubborn things," and will not go away regardless of our denials and wishful thinking that it might be otherwise.

You gotta play the hand you're dealt.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
The logistics of dismantling a tyrannical govt today aren't the same as they were in 1800. They are what you would call "entrenched" to the tenth power, have every resource known to man at their disposal to quell a patriotic uprising.

We have jobs and mortgages, and no slaves to maintain the plantation while we go away to war. Electronically they could shut our life down in about 30 seconds, and that was not a concern 250 years ago. Back then it was everyone on equal terms with simple geography, weather, and troop numbers the determining factors in the outcome. Now, they hold all the power.



Disagree !

Who would the gov't get to fight their battle ?
Military votes R by a wide margin.
Most fly-over country Law Enforcement are Conservatives .

Electronically they could shut us down ?
Turn off whatever they want - how about the Right turns off their power/food/water - and one really crazy guy [named ELMO] destroys anything that looks like a satellite/communication doodad ? So now EVERYBODY is shut down for months .

Military 1.5million how many would arm up ready to kill ? 10% - doubtful , Law Enforcement numbers - WAY WAY too small to even consider going against a big state militia . Especially when the Militia is a Constitutional Force - which IS the law of the land .


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Knowing something is wrong, and taking actions that would be dangerous and could cost you everything, are two very different things.

Most people are not willing to 'go there' until they feel they have nothing left to lose.

As a population, we have not felt any real pain being inflicted upon us by our govt.

If/when that type of pain becomes clear and palpable to the masses, then a hostile reaction will be organic.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
The logistics of dismantling a tyrannical govt today aren't the same as they were in 1800. They are what you would call "entrenched" to the tenth power, have every resource known to man at their disposal to quell a patriotic uprising.

We have jobs and mortgages, and no slaves to maintain the plantation while we go away to war. Electronically they could shut our life down in about 30 seconds, and that was not a concern 250 years ago. Back then it was everyone on equal terms with simple geography, weather, and troop numbers the determining factors in the outcome. Now, they hold all the power.



Disagree !

Who would the gov't get to fight their battle ?
Military votes R by a wide margin.
Most fly-over country Law Enforcement are Conservatives .

Electronically they could shut us down ?
Turn off whatever they want - how about the Right turns off their power/food/water - and one really crazy guy [named ELMO] destroys anything that looks like a satellite/communication doodad ? So now EVERYBODY is shut down for months .

Military 1.5million how many would arm up ready to kill ? 10% - doubtful , Law Enforcement numbers - WAY WAY too small to even consider going against a big state militia . Especially when the Militia is a Constitutional Force - which IS the law of the land .



Martial law should be imposed right now.

Stop this this coup in it's tracks

Expose all the fraud for all to see.

Release all the information on the Biden's corruption.

Let the chips fall as they may.

Hold a fair and legal election and move on




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Yes that is a danger . But we can paralyse ourselves to inaction by concentrating on every danger



You’re right.

Go for it and good luck, Ruger.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
[quote=Old_Toot][quote=Diesel]When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.

We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom

Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness.



Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.


No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.


Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.


So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.




His plan seems to be for red states to declare themselves "constitutional 2A sanctuaries" while they still enforce/uphold all the unconstitutional Federal gun laws already on the books, background checks/4473's/tax stamps for suppressors etc.etc... That'll show those fuuckin commies.



Hey, Bro, come on down to 2A Sanctuary Louisiana.

Let me take you there

Via:

www.louisianasportsman.com

Click on:
Classifieds

Click on:
Browse

Scroll down to the category:
Hunting

Scroll down through Hunting:
About midway of the category

Click on:
Guns

There’s only 1300 or so for sale.

How’s things up commie, 2A default, restrictive New York ?

I know you’re absolutely loving it up there.

You bring your handgun, concealed into NYC?
How about south of you in New Jersey?

Laffin at you, Brother.
I'm laughing at you because you're too fuuckin stupid to see that every state enforces unconstitutional Federal gun laws. How many guns have you ordered from a catalog or website and had delivered to your door with no background check or paperwork lately ? How many have you got from a La. dealer without background check and paperwork ? How many full auto's ? How many suppressors ? What, none you say ? Thought so dumbass. I have been to NYC once in my life and have no need or desire to ever go to that shythole again. Same for NJ.. You'd have to hold a gun to my head to make me go again.

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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.


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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.
I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.

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We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom

Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness. [/quote]


Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.[/quote]

No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.
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Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.[/quote]

So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.





Hey, Bro, come on down to 2A Sanctuary Louisiana.

Let me take you there

Via:

www.louisianasportsman.com

Click on:
Classifieds

Click on:
Browse

Scroll down to the category:
Hunting

Scroll down through Hunting:
About midway of the category

Click on:
Guns

There’s only 1300 or so for sale.

How’s things up commie, 2A default, restrictive New York ?

I know you’re absolutely loving it up there.

You bring your handgun, concealed into NYC?
How about south of you in New Jersey?

Laffin at you, Brother.
[/quote] I'm laughing at you because you're too fuuckin stupid to see that every state enforces unconstitutional Federal gun laws. How many guns have you ordered from a catalog or website and had delivered to your door with no background check or paperwork lately ? How many have you got from a La. dealer without background check and paperwork ? How many full auto's ? What, none you say ? Thought so dumbass. I have been to NYC once in my life and have no need or desire to ever go to that shythole again. Same for NJ.. You'd have to hold a gun to my head to make me go again.
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Please allow me to summarize answers for some of your dumbassed questions regarding Louisiana and the source that I gave you to view and that seemed to have upset you badly. I can understand why it upset you living up In Scchittville, New York but pay attention, please.

1. Gun Show Loophole.
2. I have 2 acquaintances that have a Class 3 license .
3. I have multiple acquaintances that own and use Supressors.

Any other dumbassed questions?


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I don't doubt that you have acquaintances that have a class 3 license. Those licenses are my point retard.

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Originally Posted by captbutch
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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.
I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.



I’m glad to know that you’re financially well off and happy in situ.. Thanks for that info.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by captbutch
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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.
I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.



I’m glad to know that you’re financially well off and happy in situ.. Thanks for that info.
If I could get them all to go with me I'd leave. It wouldn't be very far South though. I can't stand the heat and am used to having millions of acres of State land close by to hunt, shoot, fish and wander on.

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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.
I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.



I’m glad to know that you’re financially well off and happy in situ.. Thanks for that info.
If I could get them all to go with me I'd leave. It wouldn't be very far South though. I can't stand the heat and am used to having millions of acres of State land close by to hunt, shoot, fish and wander on.


My.
How nice.

Folks like you are exactly where you need to be so do Enjoy and by all means don’t bring your Yankee scchitt South. We’d appreciate that kind consideration from your type.

Ohhhh, I failed to mention. My Whitetail deer season,,,,,runs from October 1st on out to January 31st.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by captbutch
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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.
I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.



I’m glad to know that you’re financially well off and happy in situ.. Thanks for that info.

Blackheart, most people don't know the real New York, y'all are just redneck Yankees. Taxes and gun issues are the only reason we don't live up there.


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Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.
I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.



I’m glad to know that you’re financially well off and happy in situ.. Thanks for that info.

Blackheart, most people don't know the real New York, y'all are just redneck Yankees. Taxes and gun issues are the only reason we don't live up there.



It is a beautiful State and you are dead center correct in what you’ve said.

Big cities in every state are the tail that wags the dog, New York being Exhibit A.

As the old humorist, Brother Dave Gardner, used to say, “there ain’t nothing wrong with the Country cept’n the f’kn Cities “.

Ben Franklin warned us of the same thing that when people crowd up in the cities we’d become just like Europe.

Witness the fact.


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