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that sucks, really enjoying my 3-9 vxr this season, midway had them on sale earlier this year. I let my 9yo shoot my gun the other evening and now he wants one on his gun. I was counting points on a buck 10 minutes after shooting light at 100 yards with it the other day. Scope could definitely get you in trouble.
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@OP, I agree. The VX-R's were good scopes. Probably because they worked well...
PS, Leupold has "lost its mind." Like three years ago when they more than doubled their Custom Shop retrofit prices, unannounced. And then later in the year closed the Custom Shop all together... <smh>
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How do you build in Oregon and compete with the rest? The issue is not Oregon. The issue is quality control. Some very fine scopes come from the east. I own more Leupolds than all of my other scopes combined, but i'm pretty much weaned myself from them. the last two I purchased, a VX3-i 3.5X10X40 tracks perfectly (or at least when you correct for windage and elevation0 but another straight 4X I purchased, i was 1" low so I clicked up four and the next group was three inches high above the bull (so it moved 4"0. Total bullshit.
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Probably because they worked well...
PS, Leupold has "lost its mind." Fair enough analysis. I believe they've also dropped the Long Range Duplex reticle also. It continues to be a useful option for my kind of hunting. And replaced it with that breathtakingly stupid "Tri MOA"....... +1 Love the LRD, but the "Tri MOA" is indeed breathtakingly stupid. Leupold even ditched the very good B&C reticle, as well as cheapening the appearance/manufacture of the VX3 line, while discontinuing the great VX2 line in favor of the cheap looking, tacti-cool "Freedom" scopes. And man, I'd love to know what genius came up with that sophomoric name...
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How do you build in Oregon and compete with the rest? The issue is not Oregon. The issue is quality control. Some very fine scopes come from the east. I own more Leupolds than all of my other scopes combined, but i'm pretty much weaned myself from them. the last two I purchased, a VX3-i 3.5X10X40 tracks perfectly (or at least when you correct for windage and elevation0 but another straight 4X I purchased, i was 1" low so I clicked up four and the next group was three inches high above the bull (so it moved 4"0. Total bullshit. Typical Leupold tracking errors is why I left them long ago
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I was needing something along the lines of another VX-R recently, and wound up finding a shop that had the Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 mil-dot for a good discount ($570). Will soon see how it stacks up against the VX-R 3-9x40.
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Leupold has made some inexplicable moves recently.
I understand the whole long range thing and why they are getting into that, but to drop the B&C reticle from the 2.5-8, and the LRD reticle from most of the scopes is beyond me. That's simply abandoning a LOT of hunters out there.
And than there is the custom shop debacle.........
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Having said that, MAGA.
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Leupold has made some inexplicable moves recently.
I understand the whole long range thing and why they are getting into that, but to drop the B&C reticle from the 2.5-8, and the LRD reticle from most of the scopes is beyond me. That's simply abandoning a LOT of hunters out there.
And than there is the custom shop debacle.........
I suppose I sensed where Leupold was headed, so stocked up on scopes I wanted over the last 4 or 5 years. Glad I did.
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I just bought a used vx r on eBay last week. I wanted a duplex reticle and firedot. It was a hard scope to find
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I really like my VX-R. For a 3-9 set-it-and-forget-it hunting scope, it’s a great scope. The Firedot illumination is excellent.
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Ain't there a Freedom with Firedot now? I thought there was a memo recently...
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Leupold reminds me of a dying business. I used to enjoy looking at their web site, but no more as one never knows what is current info. I think the Fire Dot 4 reticle they had for the 3-9x40 version was a good one and wish I had kept mine.
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I really wish I had known about these on sale at Midway. What did the 2 x 7 and 3 x 9 go for? What was the original street price? Did these have better glass than the current VX3i scopes?
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VXR & VX3 glass compares very closely.
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Midway has some factory refurbished VXR scopes for sale - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018104598Edit to add; There's only 4 left. These special offers usually sell out pretty quickly.
Last edited by skeen; 12/17/20. Reason: There's only 4 left. These special offers usually sell out pretty quickly.
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factory refurbished doesn't instill lots o9f confidence.
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VXR & VX3 glass compares very closely. I have two VX-R’s and love them. Excellent performance in every aspect. At the last NRA show I attended, I asked the Leupold reps where the R stood “quality wise” with respect to their product line. The rep stated the R series was generally between the VX-2’s and 3’s. I was astonished, as I put it dead even with the VX-3’s in performance.
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The vx freedom is not in the same class as the vxr. The turrets are crap.
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The impotent bean counters kill things without looking ahead. I agree that they look like they are about to go under. Be Well, RZ.
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