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To chime in here, to me a premium bullet is a bonded bullet.
Are they necessary for Elk...NO.
The best performing FACTORY bullet I have ever used is the Remington Core Lokt. Cannot fault it from any angle in many calibres. The price of them is very reasonable and that is how I got brass to start loading for myself way back in 1988.
I used them exclusively when I had my first 300WM & 300 Bee, both with the 180gr. I also used them in my 338WM and my Dad’s 35 Whelen. Never had a failure. I shot a large Sambar stag, had a rack on him of 28”x29”, while caping out the brisket, there were 3 nicely mushroomed semi intact Nosler BT’s in there. They must have been shot a fair distance away from a slow gun, cuz they barely went 6”.
The wound had fully healed and had also calloused up from when he was bedding down.
That’s the only time I have recovered fired bullets, but have found arrows on 4 different occasions. Even a branch embedded in a Hinds eye.
Personally, I use premium bullets, but I also shoot long range without premium bullets cuz they expand easier.

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Originally Posted by huntinaz
I feel like if this was a real campfire and we had all thousands of us sitting around it... we would be having a (another) super big fistfight over this in like 20 minutes

It would be a fantastic sight to see


This made me laugh! :0)

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Originally Posted by Tuco
Originally Posted by huntinaz
I feel like if this was a real campfire and we had all thousands of us sitting around it... we would be having a (another) super big fistfight over this in like 20 minutes

It would be a fantastic sight to see


This made me laugh! :0)


Me too, it would be a blood bath!!! Haha 😂


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Originally Posted by Judman
Couple in the shoulder, 180 interloks, 300 (BEE) for fotis 😂, 35-40 yards. 3300 FPS,
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If I draw afognak will use my model 70 in a 300 weatherby with 180gr hornady spire points.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by Judman
Couple in the shoulder, 180 interloks, 300 (BEE) for fotis 😂, 35-40 yards. 3300 FPS,
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Dang Jud, nice bull! Congrats!

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Originally Posted by MarineHawk
Originally Posted by Judman
Couple in the shoulder, 180 interloks, 300 (BEE) for fotis 😂, 35-40 yards. 3300 FPS,
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Dang Jud, nice bull! Congrats!


👍 hour after that pic was takin, you couldn’t see 10’. Most miserable day of my life, and 3 pards. My Ol man packed our packs and rifle out and waited at the trailhead for us. Killed him 15 minutes after daylight, got to the old man hour after dark.. what a day. I owe the ol sumbitch one...


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Here’s the bull the pard and I killed the year before in Whitney creek. Bout a mile from where I killed mine, but on the right side of the canyon!! Haha way nicer weather too!! 270 (BEE), oooops I said it again!! Haha 130 Hornadys interloks, leupold glass.

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Put a bullet in the right spot and type, style, etc don’t mean $hit!!!! Happy new year’s to my elk killing brother’s!

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Hell ya!! It’s coming!! Wont top my Rosie I killed this year, but I’ll be trying to top my rocky. 👍


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Originally Posted by Judman
Here’s the bull the pard and I killed the year before in Whitney creek. Bout a mile from where I killed mine, but on the right side of the canyon!! Haha way nicer weather too!! 270 (BEE), oooops I said it again!! Haha 130 Hornadys interloks, leupold glass.

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That Mountain Home park area? What range that toad shot at?

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Both Dayton, mine over on the newby mtn side, directly across from greenfly, his on the greenfly side in Whitney creek. Sheps was 300ish, dead run through timber, shoulder shot... lotsa whiskey drank after both those... grin


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Bullets I’ve used range from monos to target bullets.

Meh, doesn’t matter. learn how to kill [bleep] and it’ll work out fine.

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A rock or spear will kill one, but I favor Nosler Accubonds and Partitions, as do my partners. Use the best you can afford the others are for practice and jugs of water.

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Originally Posted by Judman
Both Dayton, mine over on the newby mtn side, directly across from greenfly, his on the greenfly side in Whitney creek. Sheps was 300ish, dead run through timber, shoulder shot... lotsa whiskey drank after both those... grin


Those were great bulls. Man, I love seeing them whoppers.

I used the 212 ELD this year in my 06. Worked like a champ. Typically I’m a Bitterroot, Partition, Accubond or Scirocco guy for elk though.

The Scenars are kinda the sleeper in the bullet arena. I used the 139 from a 6.5C and the 220 Scenar from my RUM on some deer. Worked like a champ. Didn’t find an elk with the RUM the year I used it.


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Premium “ping pong ball”

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Nice bull,SLM. smile


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Happy New Year Elks’, hope all is well.

Speaking of masochists that like magnums! 😀

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Remington Core Lokts and Peters C.E.'s worked like a champ forever, but then I got well off enough to buy gun magazines and found out they were inadequate.



This ^^


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Originally Posted by Ralphie
If premium means bullets that are shot into the chest cavity then yes.


I like this answer, so I'll add to it. Find a bullet that gives you the best accuracy out of your rifle and confidence to place your shot.

It might be a "premium" or it might not.



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