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Ok, now that we’ve concluded the .308 Win with a non premium 165/168 gr bullet is the holy grail of elk hunting, let’s argue the important stuff.
8X or 10X? 42 or 32 objective? 8X42 for me.
Kifaru, Stone Glacier, Mystery Ranch or other? Load shelf or bag for meat? Back and forth between SG and Kifaru for me, load shelf.
12X or 15X if using bigger glass? Really liking the 12X more and more.
Chest harness or strap for binoculars? Which of either? Alaska Guide Creations for me.
Can’t really argue boot fit, but Zamberlan for me.
Eta; yes I’m bored.
Yes on the Alaska guide creations. 👍😂😂 Hell yesssss! I’d run a Savage before I gave mine up! 
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Can’t very well argue if we’re all agreeing on the AGC? Would like to try a Marsupial though.
Where’s Tiny at, he hates them.
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Let’s not get carried away. Hell yesssss! I’d run a Savage before I gave mine up!
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I have the agc and marsupial. the agc stays to home.....
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Let’s not get carried away. Hell yesssss! I’d run a Savage before I gave mine up! Okay okay okay 
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You in the AGC to bulky camp too?
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Can’t very well argue if we’re all agreeing on the AGC? Would like to try a Marsupial though.
Where’s Tiny at, he hates them. WTF bro? They're not liberals....I don't hate them. I just don't like having a backpack on my chest, and since you all do like them....by default I don't. No dic jokes in response to that OK? AGC quality is outstanding and they completely enclose the binos. I can see why they're popular. It's too bad I don't like their bulk, as I could get them for 25% off through a work discount.
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That don't bother me. I like them to ride higher, not hang down around my belt, and the AGC harness is dogshit for that. I did a buckle swap on the AGC so I can use the better harness off the marsupial on it. Or just clip either to the shoulder straps on my pack, and do away with the harness.
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The bulk is not an issue if you have a man size chest. Can’t very well argue if we’re all agreeing on the AGC? Would like to try a Marsupial though.
Where’s Tiny at, he hates them. WTF bro? They're not liberals....I don't hate them. I just don't like having a backpack on my chest, and since you all do like them....by default I don't. No dic jokes in response to that OK? AGC quality is outstanding and they completely enclose the binos. I can see why they're popular. It's too bad I don't like their bulk, as I could get them for 25% off through a work discount.
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I did have an issue with it loosening through the day and riding low. Did the buckle change and all is good for me now. That don't bother me. I like them to ride higher, not hang down around my belt, and the AGC harness is dogshit for that. I did a buckle swap on the AGC so I can use the better harness off the marsupial on it. Or just clip either to the shoulder straps on my pack, and do away with the harness.
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Agreed. Most bullets will work most of the time.
Are premium bullets "needed" in those situations? No.
Will premium bullets sometimes provide the desired results where a standard bullet failed? Yes.
Premiums are cheap insurance for those other times in my view.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
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That don't bother me. I like them to ride higher, not hang down around my belt, and the AGC harness is dogshit for that. I did a buckle swap on the AGC so I can use the better harness off the marsupial on it. Or just clip either to the shoulder straps on my pack, and do away with the harness. Binos hanging down by lower ribs bugs the hell out of me too, but the two pairs of AGC I had seemed to ride up high just fine, right where my FHFs do. That's odd how you had issues. I wonder if you had an older design?
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The bulk is not an issue if you have a man size chest.
That's not what MOM said, but she does like bulk.
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What`s so tough about killing an Elk? Granted, I`ve only killed three, and the last bull was some years ago, 175 grn Sierra Pro Hunter out of my 8mm06 AI. The other two were with 154 grn 7mm SP, 7 Rem Mag. Three shots, three bulls. Or was I indeed using "Premium" bullets and didn`t know it?
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What`s so tough about killing an Elk? Granted, I`ve only killed three, and the last bull was some years ago, 175 grn Sierra Pro Hunter out of my 8mm06 AI. The other two were with 154 grn 7mm SP, 7 Rem Mag. Three shots, three bulls. Or was I indeed using "Premium" bullets and didn`t know it? These new elk are on steroids and PCP. If you shoot them with Sierras, they will run you down and cram your rifle up your ass. Other "non-premiums", they will catch in their mouths and then spit them back at you, killing you instantly. This is life-and-death stuff, man.
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Gee, I didn`t know all that. I had better stick to W.T. deer....using "Premium" bullets, of course.
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I do not think anyone suggested that premium bullets are “needed” to kill an elk! If so, they are very incorrect. A premium bullet merely offers another level of insurance! Anyone that would suggest that a fragile bullet has an advantage over a premium bullet on anything less than a perfectly placed shot is delusional! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
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Ok, now that we’ve concluded the .308 Win with a non premium 165/168 gr bullet is the holy grail of elk hunting, let’s argue the important stuff.
8X or 10X? 42 or 32 objective? 8X42 for me.
Kifaru, Stone Glacier, Mystery Ranch or other? Load shelf or bag for meat? Back and forth between SG and Kifaru for me, load shelf.
12X or 15X if using bigger glass? Really liking the 12X more and more.
Chest harness or strap for binoculars? Which of either? Alaska Guide Creations for me.
Can’t really argue boot fit, but Zamberlan for me.
Eta; yes I’m bored.
Laffin..... Stick is that you??
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It’s harder to find them than it is to kill them.
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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