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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15629635 01/08/21
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Never messed with bear.

But if I was going for one tomorrow, I would grab
my 760 30-06, 180 grain Pro hunters.

Given a minute to get anal, I would load Partitions.

The AR is the only thing you post that gives an advantage
over your 760. And that's only firepower. At a cost of clumsy weight.


And here is the thing.
The 760 is a good rifle, but I don't like them.
It's not a favorite, or a first choice.


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15630713 01/09/21
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Take the firedot, your shot will be at dark

Re: Bear Rifle [Re: Dillonbuck] #15630735 01/09/21
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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Never messed with bear.

But if I was going for one tomorrow, I would grab
my 760 30-06, 180 grain Pro hunters.

Given a minute to get anal, I would load Partitions.

The AR is the only thing you post that gives an advantage
over your 760. And that's only firepower. At a cost of clumsy weight.


And here is the thing.
The 760 is a good rifle, but I don't like them.
It's not a favorite, or a first choice.



I spent a lot of years Bear hunting with a 760 pump. These days I prefer a bolt gun. If I need a lightning quick second shot I didn't do things right the first time


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: badwolf] #15632422 01/09/21
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Originally Posted by badwolf
Take the firedot, your shot will be at dark

If you just want to shoot a bear, I'd go this way.

If you're fussy on size, by the time it gets dark enough to need help seeing the reticle, it's get damn tough to tell the size of the bear.

Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15633975 01/09/21
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I've used a Marlin 1895 .45-70 with run of the mill Remington 405 gr jacketed soft points.


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15636760 01/10/21
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I used to guide in Maine for 17 years. Everything you mentioned will kill a bear but my favorite cal. over bait is the 45-70.

Re: Bear Rifle [Re: elkhunternm] #15639880 01/11/21
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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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I grab either the .35 Remington or 45-70 depending on my mood. Either does the job admirably.

^^^^This^^^^

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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15641683 01/11/21
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I shot an average size black bear with a .35 Whelen and 225 grain Gamekings at 75 yards. Bear died but did have jacket separation. I would go with a tougher bullet, just my 2 cents

Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15644053 01/11/21
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Well, the 10th or 12th time I came on 2 gallons of brown bear crap (often at a distance of one step) while moose hunting heavy cover, I upgraded from .30-06 to. .338WM.

Worked too.

Haven't seen a brown bear in 20 years out there since - just in my yard.

Skert them, I did.... smile

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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: hunter4623] #15644495 01/11/21
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Originally Posted by hunter4623
Marlin 336 35 rem 150 gr corelok traveled thru 3’ of bear and ended up in the offside skin. Perfect mushroom and 40 yard easy tracking job.




And the "experts" claim that old 150gr Core-Lokt was useless on anything bigger than a coyote. I've only killed one deer with it but had no complaints either.

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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: SCGunNut] #15647396 01/12/21
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Originally Posted by SCGunNut
Originally Posted by hunter4623
Marlin 336 35 rem 150 gr corelok traveled thru 3’ of bear and ended up in the offside skin. Perfect mushroom and 40 yard easy tracking job.




And the "experts" claim that old 150gr Core-Lokt was useless on anything bigger than a coyote. I've only killed one deer with it but had no complaints either.


I've killed one buck with that load and it did the job


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15647502 01/12/21
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.45-70 with 380-420gn cast or solid.


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15647555 01/12/21
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150 gr corelok .35 rem. At 30 yards. Impact at the shoulder/neck joint and traveled across the body breaking a couple ribs. Found it in the off side hide. 488lbs dressed if I recall correctly.
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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15648076 01/12/21
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Black bear are not tough to kill, many are shot dead with satisfaction using 6mm. The 308 Win is plenty potent and rendering pinpoint accuracy at those ranges. The 35 Rem is an underestimated killer at 100 yards, anything hit right within range is dead. FTX bullets are a marketing joke in a tube feed lever gun. The tube feed lever is a pure killer with JHP, JFP and HC. For 45-70 the JHP in the 300 gr dumps massive expansion, shock and wounding at that range. Any quality JFP in 350gr weight at 2,200 fps will cut a black bear in two. As far as 45-70 HC in 400gr+, not really necessary as they will pass through easily at that range.

Re: Bear Rifle [Re: badwolf] #15648275 01/12/21
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Originally Posted by badwolf
Take the firedot, your shot will be at dark


Yup. Cartridge isn't as critical as scope.


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15660355 01/15/21
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I have never hunted black bears. I live in Maine ( decent black bear population).

I stayed at a bed and breakfast east of Lincoln, ME 20 years ago when I used to call on various paper mills as a chemical supplier. My normal small hotel was booked, so I stayed at the b&b out of town from Lincoln Pulp &Paper. It was owned by a Maine registered guide. It was bear hunting season.

After dinner, I was chatting with a couple of his "sports" /clients who were going bear hunting the next day. They were from Philadelphia. One was going to use a 338 Win mag, the other had a 300 Win mag. Scopes were 3-9x or 4-12x (?) Leupolds. I mostly just listened to the sports tell their hunting stories. Made for an interesting evening. To them, they were on a safari of a lifetime in the deep Maine woods. They retired to their rooms after a bit, when the stories ended

The guide/owner came into the living room where I was finishing some coffee. He sat down at one of the chairs where the "sports" were sitting , and he chucked, as he was listening to their stories in the other room. He said, "If I told them the truth about tomorrow's outing, they would be disappointed. I've been baiting those bears for a month with all the old donuts, bread and cooking oil I could find. All they have to do is sit in the tree stand, and wait for a bear to show up, at a distance of less than 40 yards. All they need for a rifle is an open-sighted 30-30, and they would get a bear."

Based on that comment, I would guess any of your mentioned firearms would work fine.



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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15662817 01/16/21
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I know any of them will work, Sometimes I wish I only had one rifle. Picking one is hard.

Re: Bear Rifle [Re: NEBHUNTER] #15662916 01/16/21
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I've shot five black bears. Three with a 450 Marlin and 400 gr Speers. One with a 270 and a 180 gr Woodleigh. Last one was with a 270 and a 140 gr Accubond. As many have noted, they aren't particularly tough - any good deer bullet is probably sufficient. I'll likely carry a 243 with 95 gr Partitions this spring.


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: buttstock] #15662994 01/16/21
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Originally Posted by buttstock
I have never hunted black bears. I live on Maine.

I stayed at a bed and breakfast east of Lincoln, ME 20 years ago when I used to call on various paper mills as a chemical supplier. My normal small hotel was booked, so I stayed at the b&b out of town from Lincoln Pulp &Paper. It was owned by a Maine registered guide. It was bear hunting season.

After dinner, I was chatting with a couple of his "sports" /clients. They were from Philadelphia. One was going to use a 338 Win mag, the other had a 300 Win mag. Scopes were 3-9x or 4-12/14x(?) Leupolds. I mostly just listened to the sports tell their hunting stories. Made for an interesting evening. To them, they were on a safari of a lifetime in the deep Maine woods. They retired to their rooms after a bit, when the stories ended

The guide/owner came into the living room where I was finishing some coffee. He sat down at one of the chairs where the "sports" were sitting , and he chucked, as he was listening to their stories in the other room. He said, "If I told them the truth about tomorrow's outing, they would be disappointed. I've been baiting those bears for a month with all the old donuts, bread and cooking oil I could find. All they have to do is sit in the tree stand, and wait for a bear to show up, at a distance of less than 40 yards. All they need for a rifle is an open-sighted 30-30, and they would get a bear."

Based on that comment, I would guess any of your mentioned firearms would work fine.


I get his point and yes I own and use several 30-30's. However, if one owns these magnums (and I do) if one doesn't use them for hunts such as these what do we have them for? I own numerous guns that the Bear guide in question would approve of. But if I'm booking a Bear hunt of any type I'm taking my 300 Win Mag. I own it because I like it and I look for reasons to use it. And if the Bears within 30-30 range a 300 mag is certainly no handicap


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Re: Bear Rifle [Re: moosemike] #15663772 01/16/21
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Originally Posted by moosemike
I love the calibers you mention but loathe the FTX bullets. A good 405 hardcast would be lovely




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