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Originally Posted by Northman
Blaming Boomers has become a part time hobby of mine, since they have been blaming "Millennials" for nearly two decades, for all the troubles the US has come to see.... like it all started when Millennials started voting....

At the same time, just ignoring it was under THEIR watch, most of US production was outsourced, healthcare and medicine costs skyrocket, public education and college costs explode because of defunding and wages has been stagnant....


Boomers grew up in the best time in the US ever... paid for by TAXES. Only to privatize it all when they grew up, because they didn't want to pay no damn taxes for it. Their parents paid taxes for it, and made sure they grew up in the BEST EVER economical period that any country has ever seen.

Boomers wanted low taxes instead, voting for Politicians who made it possible to outsource with impunity.. just as long as they gave them a tiny tax break as well. Boomers wanted low taxes and privatization. And they got it...

Results... outsourced production sector, low wages, no immigration laws from EITHER party, because privatization trumped everything... and both of them keeps wages down.


Education Boomers could pay of with a summer job back in the day, now costs hundreds of thousands of dollars because of defunding.... but its Millennials fault.
Healthcare that should cost HALF of what it does today, if the US just did as every other 1st world country... but its Millennials fault.
2008, which nearly broke the back of the Millennials in their start up years... caused by negligence and dont give [bleep] attitude from the Boomer generation... but its the Millennials fault.
20 God Damn years of war, that the Millennials have had to fight in....


And all the while, Boomers have secured themselves in their "golden years"... while their Children, the Millennials have inherited a massive beast of underfunded liabilities, because Boomers didn't give a [bleep] about paying taxes. They are just sucking the teat dry of the last thing the Greatest Generation left them... a nearly functioning welfare state.


But... its all Millennials fault.



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You really are an uninformed, demented fugk.

But hey, Biden and his crew are promising you a bunch of free schit. So you bite.. like a blind pig. And pull the handle for a buncha commies.

Now get out there and get to work. I'm expecting my next social security bump Wednesday.


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Just for the record: Northman is a retard

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Originally Posted by Hypocrite
Just for the record: Northman is a retard


Thanks for clarifying that, LOL!


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Originally Posted by El_CuCuy
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You couldn't be more wrong, on every count, every word. The boomer had lower wages and higher competition for jobs at every turn.


The pre-globalization job market was in no way more competitive than what has come since. Nations provided regulated financial markets that kept capital at home, and specifically targeted full employment; this was a time of strong labor protections, and real wage growth across the spectrum. All of these things have since been squandered starting in the neoliberal age that Reagan, and Thatcher ushered in.


Thanks for making my point. Your words: pre-globalized markets were smaller. The population "Boom-er" caused a glut of low skill people available. The competition for housing was worse yet. Prices were extremely high as early as the 70's. The Boomer's had to qualify for mortgages unlike the millennials of today that live on junk REIT bonds. Most Boomers have had to retrain several times in their career’s due technology changes. The Millennials have had a secure job a Micky D's the entire time. I would like extra ketchup for my fries.

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Originally Posted by MM879
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Originally Posted by MM879

You couldn't be more wrong, on every count, every word. The boomer had lower wages and higher competition for jobs at every turn.


The pre-globalization job market was in no way more competitive than what has come since. Nations provided regulated financial markets that kept capital at home, and specifically targeted full employment; this was a time of strong labor protections, and real wage growth across the spectrum. All of these things have since been squandered starting in the neoliberal age that Reagan, and Thatcher ushered in.


Thanks for making my point. Your words: pre-globalized markets were smaller. The population "Boom-er" caused a glut of low skill people available. The competition for housing was worse yet. Prices were extremely high as early as the 70's. The Boomer's had to qualify for mortgages unlike the millennials of today that live on junk REIT bonds. Most Boomers have had to retrain several times in their career’s due technology changes. The Millennials have had a secure job a Micky D's the entire time. I would like extra ketchup for my fries.



Mortgage rates 14% - 20% at the peak of the Carter recession, gas lines..... oh yeah fun times


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The early Boomers had better job opportunities than the later crop of Boomers. But they also had conscription and Vietnam to contend with. The "generation Jones" Boomers, those that were born in the mid 50's and later came of age right when the Arab oil embargo shot gas prices from 35 cents a gallon to $1.00 a gallon. That might not sound like much to anyone who wasn't there. But it caused a fairly significant economic upheaval. Among other things, it caused that idiot Jimmy Carter to mandate a 55 mph nationwide speed limit. Jobs were hard to get, also,...major recession, high interest rates, and inflation.

I was a young man without a lot of political insight back then. Jimmy Carter opened my eyes to Democrats. I ain't had no use for the sonsabitches since.

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WTF is up with liberal canuks sturring up chit all the time?

Primarily USA envy I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
The early Boomers had better job opportunities than the later crop of Boomers. But they also had conscription and Vietnam to contend with. The "generation Jones" Boomers, those that were born in the mid 50's and later came of age right when the Arab oil embargo shot gas prices from 35 cents a gallon to $1.00 a gallon. That might not sound like much to anyone who wasn't there. But it caused a fairly significant economic upheaval. Among other things, it caused that idiot Jimmy Carter to mandate a 55 mph nationwide speed limit. Jobs were hard to get, also,...major recession, high interest rates, and inflation.

I was a young man without a lot of political insight back then. Jimmy Carter opened my eyes to Democrats. I ain't had no use for the sonsabitches since.

I ran a small independent tire shop when Carter was present. There were days when the only person walking in the door was the mailman and that bass turd brought bills. I bought my first house at 12%. I was a rookie fireman scared chitless when I signed on the dotted line. Then Reagan got elected. We got a decent contract raise and I got a step raise. 6 months later I refi'd my house down to 9% and thought I was chittin' in tall cotton. All my best years on the job for raises were during Republican presidential terms.


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Originally Posted by Northman
Originally Posted by Bristoe


Which Boomers are you talking about?,......those who were one year old in 1947 or those who were one year old in 1963?



Those starting to vote in 1971...





Funny. You dumb fugkers think anybody born before 1980 is responsible for the entire cache of the world's ills.

Yet, you're the idiots that brought us obama. Suck on that.


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Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The early Boomers had better job opportunities than the later crop of Boomers. But they also had conscription and Vietnam to contend with. The "generation Jones" Boomers, those that were born in the mid 50's and later came of age right when the Arab oil embargo shot gas prices from 35 cents a gallon to $1.00 a gallon. That might not sound like much to anyone who wasn't there. But it caused a fairly significant economic upheaval. Among other things, it caused that idiot Jimmy Carter to mandate a 55 mph nationwide speed limit. Jobs were hard to get, also,...major recession, high interest rates, and inflation.

I was a young man without a lot of political insight back then. Jimmy Carter opened my eyes to Democrats. I ain't had no use for the sonsabitches since.

I ran a small independent tire shop when Carter was present. There were days when the only person walking in the door was the mailman and that bass turd brought bills. I bought my first house at 12%. I was a rookie fireman scared chitless when I signed on the dotted line. Then Reagan got elected. We got a decent contract raise and I got a step raise. 6 months later I refi'd my house down to 9% and thought I was chittin' in tall cotton. All my best years on the job for raises were during Republican presidential terms.





Bought my first one at 13%.

You can thank democrats for that.


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Originally Posted by El_CuCuy

Millennials have gotten the shaft so far, they got out of school just in time to start a career in the midst of the financial crisis: some of them got to their feet, and made up some ground and got smacked by COVID fallout. You think this won’t affect the way they vote?

Boomers came of age during a period of prosperity, and could count on wage growth, a rising standard of living, and increasing lifespans for all groups, their parents made this possible. Even the most mediocre boomer was likely to do better than their parents, that was a given. Millennials and Gen Y look at the dysfunctional world their boomer parents will bequeath them (if they ever retire), where all of these positive trends have been reversed, and they’re pissed.





Are you kidding me?

Do you think the last recession was the only one?

Read some history, dude. And stop being so self-important.


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Originally Posted by El_CuCuy
Originally Posted by MM879

You couldn't be more wrong, on every count, every word. The boomer had lower wages and higher competition for jobs at every turn.


The pre-globalization job market was in no way more competitive than what has come since. Nations provided regulated financial markets that kept capital at home, and specifically targeted full employment; this was a time of strong labor protections, and real wage growth across the spectrum. All of these things have since been squandered starting in the neoliberal age that Reagan, and Thatcher ushered in.





Believing your own press is what gets most politicians into problems. You have mastered the craft.

You just proved full-on entitlement for your tard card.


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I guess I don't, "get" this generation, against, generation.

I have, and do have friends of all ages.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I guess I don't, "get" this generation, against, generation.

I have, and do have friends of all ages.




Thank you. Me either. But, if attacked..


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I forgot about the peanut farmer days. I was forced into wage giveback. It cost me 20k that never returned. Today I drive past a dozen signs looking for workers.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by El_CuCuy

Millennials have gotten the shaft so far, they got out of school just in time to start a career in the midst of the financial crisis: some of them got to their feet, and made up some ground and got smacked by COVID fallout. You think this won’t affect the way they vote?

Boomers came of age during a period of prosperity, and could count on wage growth, a rising standard of living, and increasing lifespans for all groups, their parents made this possible. Even the most mediocre boomer was likely to do better than their parents, that was a given. Millennials and Gen Y look at the dysfunctional world their boomer parents will bequeath them (if they ever retire), where all of these positive trends have been reversed, and they’re pissed.


I started my career during the Carter recession...... $3.20 hr with a line of guys behind you waiting to take your job...... cry me a fuuckin river.... pussies

Exactly. I started my career in the electrical trade in 1976. Times were much tougher than now. Signing the out of work list at #1256 on the list when jobs came in at a pace of about a dozen a week was pretty disheartening.
7-8 months on the out of work list will do nasty things to a young family, with 19-20% mortgages, there was no room for error.
I hustled my ass off doing small electrical side jobs, and pushing my lawn mower around the neighborhood to make enough to buy food. Couldn’t afford to drink. Turning in returnable bottles and cans occasionally meant buying a 40oz Old Milwaukee or other cheap ass beer.


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It's not a generation against war, it's younger blaming older... 'Boomer' has gotten away from the generation definition of '46 to '64, to mean anyone older than the accuser... so it's always the boomers fault.

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'News alert'...

Ted Turner and Jane Fonda weren't Boomers...

The space race wasn't Boomers...

Google and Facebook isn't Boomers...

Biden isn't a Boomer...

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The Boomer generation of '46 to '64 has 18 years, which makes sense as a person reaches maturity at 18. But the next generations have 15, which makes the numbers of boomers a bit misleading in comparison, but whatever.

Voting age numbers is what drives politics... the 'vote'... no generation is immune to the bullchit forced on us by stupid voters, lead by liberal media and hollyweird.

But by the numbers, 71 mil boomers, 68 mil gen x, 72 mil millennials/gen y. That 3 years makes a bit of difference from boomers to gen x, but definitely gen y has the most voting power in history.

Boomer voting came to maturity in about '80, peaked around '96 and had the majority influence with the early gen x voters till 2008.

Since then it's been the gen x/millennial show.

Enough blame to go around, it's been this way since Adam and Eve.

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Originally Posted by krp
Not that it actually matters to accusers here but... life is math and it's funny who gets blamed for what.

Boomers... born 1946 to 1964 18 year spread, 56 to 74 years old. Their voting influence years were 1980, when they got the majority voting numbers, to 2008 if you add the greatest gen with them as a voting block. Responsible for Reagan, Clinton and Bush... not responsible for LBJ, Nixon, Carter... there's 71 million alive still.

By 2008, GenX and GenY(millennials) had pretty much evened out Boomers and greatest in voter numbers.

GenX... born 1965 to 1980, 15 year spread, 40 to 55 years old, 65 million alive.

GenY... born 1981 to 1996, 15 year spread, 24 to 39 years old, 72 million alive... matching boomer voting age since 2014.

GenZ... 8 to 23... 68 million... at least 20 million voting age.

Right now there are about 100 million boomers and greatest gen alive vs about 157 million GenX,Y,Z voting age.

Obama up to this chit isn't on us Boomers. Somehow we get blamed from LBJ up to today...

Yet GenX,Y and now Z could have cleaned the house of boomers in politics since 2008...

You all are getting what your generations are voting for, rioting for, we should be bitching at you.

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