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My opinion the Remington and Savage unless significantly modified are much less capable than a Mauser, Springfield or Mosin. I mean if all you are going to get caught up in is sniping and running then maybe but otherwise the stock SA Remington is a pain to quickly load the stock magazine, the older staggered magazine Savages much better than the centerfeeds. There is usually more to it than sniping and running. Beyond that saying the average Remington is significantly more accurate than anything else and enough to make a difference is ludicrous.

So you are choosing servitude over freedom? And you live in Idaho? You seem to miss the point entirely. What percentage of government forces are going to engage civilians they may be related to? You realize that by sheer mass in this country armed citizens represent an impressive force.

“Strike hard who cares - shoot straight who can,
The odds are on the cheaper man"

You stole it.

Which was the idea behind the Second Amendment. I.e., no national army could stand up to any significant percentage of an armed populous. See, e.g., Federalist No. 46.

Any bolt gun you can shoot .556 in?

You can single-load a Remington by dropping one in the open action and closing the bolt. Any rifle that doesn't REQUIRE magazine-feeding would be my preference.

That said, in this hypothetical fight, a bolt rifle is only going to be a component in an effective battle plan, as the bolt gun will work best to engage those with semi-autos BEFORE they can effectively engage. Seems to me that a scoped hunting rifle would work best to engage distant targets from a high place, or from cover, the same way that rifles were used effectively in the other major wars on this continent against muskets. And just like fighting against a bunch of men with muskets, a few guys with semi-autos can throw a lot of bullets out there, but not necessarily have significant effect against a distant single target.

The krag sucked as a military service rifle and we paid for it in the Spanish American War and the Boxer Rebellion is China. Glacially slow reloading process..

As someone suggested, fast reloading is important.

1. 03A3 Springfield. It has a clip slot.

2. Krag carbine from 1892. I believe the feds don’t even classify pre 1900 stuff as firearms.

My only experience is on the square range, across the course 2,3 and 600yd NRA/national match with a R700 clip slotted in a homemade ugly adjustable stock. Open match sights.
I managed to make HM with it. Losing HM but I did get the card.
The bolt handle didn't even fall off.
I did get thrashed regularly by another shooter using a Tikka action with mags. He could probably win with a cork gun though.
Not to mention the 18yr old eagle eye with what was the service rifle back then, cleaning the 200 & 300yd lines.
Never had one of those 6x6 ft targets shoot back though. I'd probably pick something else if that was the case.

BINGO
friend of mine in austria sniper in arm y.
also shoots hi power.
in the land of mausers they prefer the enfield, or the 1917 springfield.
as to accuracy i have a heavily reworked p14 that will shoot sub moa all day long.

Ever own one? Much faster than 700s, model 70s, or other modern bolt actions. But clip fed rifles were faster.

...and what happened to Clark. I miss that guy.

Assuming you have the ammo for it, Schmidt-Rubin K31. Far quicker cycling than a standard bolt action and an effective cartridge out to sufficient distances to be used at long range.

Yep, in theory. But never actually battle proven.

With all this chest thumping about whos' platform is best it appears there needs to be a friendly competition with said firestick to prove it.

BINGO
friend of mine in austria sniper in arm y.
also shoots hi power.
in the land of mausers they prefer the enfield, or the 1917 springfield.
as to accuracy i have a heavily reworked p14 that will shoot sub moa all day long.


actually, he stole that. been around for years.

You can chuck a single rnd into crf Mausers and Springfields just as easy as a remmy, done it many times.

Back in the day of cheap surplus ammo, I put about 2k of surplus Yugo 8mm down range in the space of a summer. I got pretty proficient with a Mauser. Still, if forced to choose a bolt, I would choose an SMLE.

In the dirt of the trenches and in the days of unreliable and inconsistent brass, the camming action of the cock on opening Mauser was arguably superior as far as reliability went. By WW II, brass was better and conditions weren’t so continually awful as they had been in the first war and the SMLE would have been the better choice.