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I gave my Irish contract No 4 Mk II to my nephew, he loves the heck out of it.

Actually the one I really miss is a 1943 BSA-made No 4, west on the outside but a clean bore and a low-number bolt head (1??). IIRC it had the wartime expedient two ring rear sight rather than the graduated ladder and might have been the one with two groove rifling I forget. It shot well,

I traded it off for the Irish contract one, a once in a lifetime opportunity for a brand new Enfield.

I got off that guy’s videos that the average Tommy was expected to achieve fifteen aimed rounds per minute.

It would be interesting to note how that compared to German and US standards during he same time frame.

The proof is out there and on video...for those who want to SEE.

As to the Irish Enfield, I got 900 for it about 5 years ago

It would be more interesting to know if hey ever used that method to any useful effect.

Time for some anglophiles or Canuckians to chime in here..but I think, volley fire was part of Brit military tactics until 1918. I'm sure it was used to good effect, I read a translation of a German officer circa WWI, and in at least one assault the Germans thought the Brits had batteries of machine guns, "so we revised our plans and returned to our trenches". Volley sights were on many LE's from that era. In reality, after Dunkirk, the Brits were woefully short on MG's, having left a few behind apparently. Maybe more than a few.
That said, I believe the world record with a bolt rifle, Sauer, 5 round mags,remains with the Norwegians, 2019 Inge Hvitas put 39 out of 44 in 60 seconds, into the standard 6.9 moa target at 200m. 2nd place fired an astonishing 48 rds but only 38 hits. I am pretty sure the Brits have never come close. For one thing they used a 7.64 moa target.
Practical use, probably not much, but they are great riflemen.

Have you ever read a thing about the early days of World War I?

Never heard of it.

That is certainly impressive, do you have a source and is that Sauer a military rifle?

Jorge, I am kind of hooked on any number of Youtube video's on the subject, but I'm so computer stupid I can't make links...but just about anything with "Stangskyting" in the search box will take you to the vids. The Sauers used are target models, currently produced and commonly available in EU. I'm sure they are highly tuned and polished. Not too many years ago they were using Norwegian Krags, with a loading device called the 'hurtiglader' (quick loader) and the 60 seconds began with the shooter in the standing position with the rifle butt on the ground. Few if any of the vids are in english language.