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Is the general consensus for expansion, that FPS needs to be 1800 FPS +? Or does it need to be higher for reliable expansion?
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393 yards, 139LS, 6.5 PRC.
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Oh man! What a BUCK! Congrats on him! Holy smokes, that's a toad!
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Can anyone comment on the lowest impact velocity that the 155 grain bullet has worked well at?
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Can anyone comment on the lowest impact velocity that the 155 grain bullet has worked well at? I will try and find the specific pic of the exit wounds, but I put two 155s through this goat at 507 and 515 yards from a 308win. Expansion and penetration were as hoped for w/ significant internal damage. So... maybe 2050-2100 fps?
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Goat was quartering away for both shots. After the first, he ran a few steps and turned the opposite way. These are the exits and bullet paths made a perfect cross through the vitals.
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Goat was quartering away for both shots. After the first, he ran a few steps and turned the opposite way. These are the exits and bullet paths made a perfect cross through the vitals. Looks like good expansion at around 2000 FPS!
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Does anyone have pictures of caught scenars in game? I am guessing they don't mushroom like a classic bullet based on their construction. It sounds like they are a pretty hard core bullet that doesn't fragment like a Berger. So, just trying to figure out the magic in these.
I have been loading the 155s in a new 308 and they shoot well. I am shooting into a cardboard box with very thick cardboard, with two layers about a foot apart. Nosler BTs, ABs, and PTs will almost always have some small lead shrapnel around the hole in the second layer as the bullet starts to open up after going through the first layer of cardboard. I noticed that the scenars do not do this. Maybe after the hollow front is blown off the flat front wadcutter ripping through creates enough trauma?
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139LS recovered from the mule deer buck in the background.
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139LS recovered from the mule deer buck in the background. Pat any experience with the 220 Scenar? It shoots well in my 300 RUM, and wondered how it does in animals.
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I can't comment on that bullet through personal experience, but seeing how the 155's in the same diameter work at reasonable velocity, I'd give it a go.
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Another 139LS recovered from this 6X6 taken by my wife with one shot at 460 yards, a couple years ago. She used my 6.5 PRC. Muzzle velocity is 3080fps with that load.
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About the same speed as the 300 RUM and 220.
We shot a few deer with them with nothing out of the ordinary but haven’t put one on an elk, yet.
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Pat,
How do you like the RPC over the Creedmoor?
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Wow, what a buck! Was that on open prairie, farmland, river bottom..?
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Pat,
How do you like the RPC over the Creedmoor? I don't own a 6.5 Creedmoor, but I have two 6.5 PRC's, and they both really deliver. My latest PRC is a lightweight build that weighs 7.5lbs all up, including the suppressor. It has a 20" barrel, and produces 3000fps with the 139LS, using R26. I'll be using it this spring for black bear, and next fall for everything.
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Another bull my pal took with my 6.5 PRC, and 139LS, back in 2018.
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2018 antelope, 6.5 PRC, same load.
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2013, Wyoming, 6.5 SAUM, 139LS.
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