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That's basically what I ended up doing. I decided what my most important values were and took girls out on dates that involved those things. Don't like it? Been nice knowing you! And I'd never talk to them again.

But why didn't you want to raise children?

Sometimes.

But he's also a COVTARD.

I couldn't get through it.


I tried too.

Maybe - maybe not - but not due to carelessness.

I think one of the biggest problems is that many men, despite the intense social programming to the contrary, still want a woman just like mom and grandmom and women of the past. An old fashioned, feminine (NOT feminist) woman. And not many of those exist anymore. Men become frustrated and go their own way, and the "strong, independent women" live empty lives because they can't find anyone to stay with them because they just "want" one, and "don't need a man".

After all these years, I finally found a good woman. The rest of you are on your own.

I dislike much,and maybe most, of what I see and hear in general about family court actions and divorce judgments. Often bad for kids and parents as well, and nonsensical. Also have seen the gamut of feminist ideology played out for the past 60 years and feel that was never fundamentally designed to elevate and/or emancipate women.

The above factors certainly have been - and are - detrimental. However, all too often we hear railing and wailing about those as the instruments of ruination - from those who seem to assume the role of victim. Not all, but many. In one way or another, we all seem to pay for our weak decisions. Some people are much more influenced by incentives than by values

Aside from those of us who got the benefit of dumb luck, the creation and sustenance of an excellent marriage will demand hard work and some sacrifice. . Girls raised lovingly and with proper values generally do not go down the sorry paths discussed in this thread.

Even on an unrelated thread you still have to be a denigrating political cunt.

Somewhere between this...



...and this, lays the answer.




I am old and married so don't really give a toss.

At what level have you dealt with the family court system in the United States?

I don’t believe men have changed much, women as a whole however have always been famously suggestible.

No accident that it was Eve who got talked into thinking that biting the apple was the thing to do.

Congrats on finding a good woman.

TV and the internet poison many into believing they can do whatever they want and if it goes badly, they were just a victim.

Women moreso than men.

Just because I don't believe it's not a literal truth, doesn't mean it's not a literary truth.

Alex,

What is a whole number less than one?

Typical too that Adam let a woman lead him astray against his own better judgement, tho I dunno if they were getting it on before the apple.

A good friend caught his wife cheating on him. They went through counseling and he moved past it. He caught her cheating again about a year later with his best friend. That was enough. He filed for divorce after 17 years of marriage. He now pays child support and she also gets half his pension when he retires. People should be able to leave a bad marriage, but the cause of the break up should be taken into account when the court decides on financial matters. In my opinion, his wife gave up her right to share in his retirement income when she decided to become a whore.

Thanks for the mention, AS. Somewhat surprising, given our differing views on religion in general and Christianity in particular. One of the many things that reinforces my faith in God is how poorly the world works when his precepts are ignored. You disagree with that conclusion, I know, but I don't see any of our societal problems getting better unless and until belief in God is widely restored. When a society sees no consequence (in the here or the hereafter) to evil or sinful behavior, such behavior only increases. The belief system you espouse works well for solving technical problems, but when it comes to human relations much more is needed.

When the AntelopeSniper post the Fubar listens......

Local and state - at what level have you dealt??

TYG,

You say God created us perfect and we fell from grace in the Garden of Eden, I say an imperfect process of evolutionary biology and a modern world with conditions very different from those experienced through the vast majority of our evolutionary past. Regardless, we're both interested in examining the challenges facing our country, can agree on what some of them are, and their implications for people within our sphere's of influence. Hopefully we can distill this into shareable information and perhaps even wisdom so we can make better decisions.

Although I do not accept the Christian version of the God proposition as true (or any other's) that does not mean there's no wisdom in the Bible, nor that it does not teach anything of useful. It see it as one of several early attempt to address the perpetual challenges we as humans face. In the intervening 2500 years we've learned much, and conditional have changed, so as an early examination of these problems it 's imperfect, and sometimes outdated. As a non-believer who's not locked into a single source for my solitons, I can examine the Biblical understanding of these problem along with their proposed cause and solutions, and decide to what degree they are applicable or not.

You referenced my belief system. My beliefs are far from monolithic and typically diverse from those of post-modern left. One of the area's where you and I agree is on the power of incentives. Where we seem to disagree is the nature of the incentives we should utilize in our efforts to mitigate the problems at hand. Belief in god(s) and hell(s) is on the decline, so I don't see efforts in this area becoming a more effective tool for fixing the challenges discussed in this thread in the future. Instead I believe we should focus on the incentives in the here and now especially those that are demonstrable, measurable, actionable, and have real opportunity to mitigate these problems without creating an equal or greater level of negative unintended consequences. It's for this reason many here point to the bad incentives created by the current family courts system, how it contributes to 80% of divorces being filed by women, and the impacts these divorces have upon the men. If we change this incentive structure, I suspect the marriage and divorce rates will change as well.