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Sure looks like the correct shape for a Savage. Are there any letters stamped on the bottom?

In 1930 the 99G was MSRP at $49.50 The Combination Kit at $74.50 and the 99K at $80 were the only two 99 "models" that cost more than that scope.

But look at Swarovski scopes now, or the top end Leupolds. More expensive than almost any off the shelf rifle.

Spiegle rifles were in the 1940's (correct?) and these B&M mounts were 10 years before then, ...so B&M and Malcolm must have been ruthlessly drilling and tapping virgin 99s, and charging a premium to do it!

I have BB sn 357xxx made with the factory holes I think in 1936

TomA, If you use the wood to metal line on the side of the guns to estimate position, all the pictures of Belding & Mull rear block show the front of the block just about even with that line, The Siegel hole pattern puts the front hole just about there so the hole for a screw in that position would break through the front of a Belding & Mull mount as pictured. The pictures of Belding & Mull mounts all seem to be of actual mounted scopes. It looks like your block would set much farther forward.

The long front mount for the Belding & Mull was used on a number of rifles, I had pictures of one that was not for a Savage but was the same design and it mounted with three screws, one in the center and one at close to each end. That long mount would not be very stable using the two narrow space holes on a Spiegle, especially the version that used just the front. I don't think Belding & Mull would change their standard hole patterns to one that was less secure for one retailer. I also never thought Spiegel would have chosen to have the guns they offered take a very expensive obscure scope, it would make not business sense at all for the type of retailer they were. It's been well documented that they offered reasonably priced Mossberg scopes on the 99's they sold.

Here are pictures from an old thread on the Spiegels -


These and others were in this thread, about the 8th post has more Belding & Mull pictures from a different catalog, this link should go right to that post - threads/12073547/re-spiegel-info

Here's another from that thread -

There are no other markings on this base I have. Why the center partial hole for a cocking indicator?

Since the mount dont fit a savage ,its possible the hole in the mount was for a holding fixture in the machining process . The Spiegel rifles were in the last half of the 1930's.

Tom, just because it doesn't fit the Spiegel hole pattern doesn't mean it isn't for a Savage 99. Does it sit level when place over the cocking indicator? The rear King-Pike mount for a 99 sits over the cocking indicator but has a different hole pattern than your mount or the Spiegel rifles. (yours is not a King-Pike)

Anyone interested in rear scope block for the Spiegel hole pattern pm me.