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" how is that not a vaccine"
Vaccines are made from the actual virus. Not according to my Dr. I saw last Thursday, while discussing this vaccine he said it wasn't made from the virus at all. I don't know who to believe anymore.
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So they could track the Modified/ activated part of RNA/DNA with a test of some sort as proof that you complied to directives to get the shot???
Nothing like that could possibly be used against you in a utopian Liberal Socialist Democrat society down the line when they have complete authoritarian control...
How is this vax any different in that regard than any of the multitude you received while in the military. Do not those dead virus, or weakened virus inoculations contain DNA and RNA? Could that genetic material also be tested for? Do not all of our polio, smallpox, flu, pneumonia, DPT, MMR, and all the other vax the kids are required before they start school contain DNA and RNA? Ahhhhhh... One they will look for? For compliance with their agenda of control..... Can the Socialist Dictatorial minions not track any chosen vax as a sign of compliance? If one chooses to avoid this vax because one does not like the shortcut methods of testing......great. Don't take it. If one thinks the likelihood of vax caused damage is greater than the likelihood of Covid caused damage.....great don't take it. But if one is actually at elevated risk of death, very severe illness, or possible long term deleterious effect from the Covid, please do not avoid the Vax because of politically motivated half truths or actual lies about its effects, contents, and development. For example, my daughter just sent me a meme showing that Covid Vax would cause the recipient to become sterile.. I mean really, she believes this schitt. Not to mention that I was voluntarily sterilized Dec 31, 1984, just as she was ten years ago. And the Vax is going to cause us to get AIDS! Really people, think about this schitt. How are you gonna get AIDS unless you expose yourself to AIDS. #frustration
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That's exactly what a vaccine does, stimulate your immune system. No it isn't. A vaccine make you immune to the disease you are vaccinated for. How does it do that? How is immunity conferred without "stimulating" the immune system to recognize said pathogen and defeat it? I don't believe you watched the whole video are maybe you did but with ear plugs. These "vaccines" are not vaccines but experimental gene therapies using synthetic RNA fragments (not COVID-19 fragments). They didn't even attempt to test them to see if they provided any immunity for COVID-19. The patents for both of these "vaccines" even say they are gene therapies and not vaccines. There are proven gene therapies for some cancers. It's against the law to use unproven gene therapies on people so our FDA (owned by the drug companies) is letting them call these gene therapies vaccines so they can't be sued. There are many other proven ways to boost your immune system that are safer than experimental gene therapies.
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" how is that not a vaccine"
Vaccines are made from the actual virus and will make you immune from that virus. If you get these "vaccines" you won't be immune from COVID-19. Did you watch the whole video? The video was full of innuendo and double speak. Lots of "qualified" statements. Name the vaccines which actually prevent ANY replication of a pathogen within the body. Instead of preparing the body to resist the infection as it begins. If the vax prevents illness when exposed to a pathogen, that is the definition of immunity. If the vax prevents illness in 95% of cases and leads to a lessor severity of illness in the other 5%, that's damned attractive to me. Vaccines have been made from actual virus in the past. That is not a requirement to meet the definition of a vaccine. Biologically active portions of the virus particle can now be artificially engeneered and duplicated in the lab. Those portions resemble the virus particle closely enough to stimulate immune response. And since no active virus was ever used in the process, the possibility of pathogen transmission is eliminated. It is not possible to "get the disease" from the shot.
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Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?
Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject? Here you go slumlord. This is the plan after what gates called his "final solution." He started this company to make $ and control the world economies through his "Verification MARK.". He calls it that because he probably wanted to pick a biblical term. Lol. This is his patent and the details. Nothing is certain as elon musk even has a version. One thing I believe is that forced vaccines and other things like central banking, buying or selling or having a job will be implemented eventually. The quantum dot might be one of the technical vehicles to make it work. The enzyme agent is Luciferase, that phosphoreses from its inserted location in the back of the hand, or elons in the forehead is likely fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-18 KJV.... "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." I think that there's some wisdom in understanding it coming together like this. What do you think? Would you share this with your pastor? I'm curious what he thinks about this post. Include the patent link if you do. https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship? Anybody who's read the Bible from cover to cover and has the Spirit of God to help them understand knows that the RC Popes have been called Father in violation to God's Word, thus making themselves types of replacements for the true Jesus Christ. Ie. A. Forgiveness of sins B. The foundation stone (Peter was the little rock). C. Accepting worship D. Calling themselves "The Holy Father (pope)" Matthew 23:9 Jesus said, "And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." I could go on for half a dozen more points, but this is enough. John said that there would be.many antichrists. Then in the book of Revelation there is one over ruling Antichrist with great power over all of the earth, not just one denomination. You said, "So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship?" The Sunday worship being the mark belief comes from a pseudo christian religious cult. It isn't worth your time or mine to even go there. No christians ever taught that. It is far beyond what is clearly in the Bible. This is the best place to start for further details that will lead to clear teaching on these end times. https://youtu.be/GxdXw7LFguk
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That's exactly what a vaccine does, stimulate your immune system. No it isn't. A vaccine make you immune to the disease you are vaccinated for. How does it do that? How is immunity conferred without "stimulating" the immune system to recognize said pathogen and defeat it? I don't believe you watched the whole video are maybe you did but with ear plugs. These "vaccines" are not vaccines but experimental gene therapies using synthetic RNA fragments (not COVID-19 fragments). They didn't even attempt to test them to see if they provided any immunity for COVID-19. The patents for both of these "vaccines" even say they are gene therapies and not vaccines. There are proven gene therapies for some cancers. It's against the law to use unproven gene therapies on people so our FDA (owned by the drug companies) is letting them call these gene therapies vaccines so they can't be sued. There are many other proven ways to boost your immune system that are safer than experimental gene therapies. But you can't make billions of dollars by recommending or supplying those other methods.
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Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?
Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject? Here you go slumlord. This is the plan after what gates called his "final solution." He started this company to make $ and control the world economies through his "Verification MARK.". He calls it that because he probably wanted to pick a biblical term. Lol. This is his patent and the details. Nothing is certain as elon musk even has a version. One thing I believe is that forced vaccines and other things like central banking, buying or selling or having a job will be implemented eventually. The quantum dot might be one of the technical vehicles to make it work. The enzyme agent is Luciferase, that phosphoreses from its inserted location in the back of the hand, or elons in the forehead is likely fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-18 KJV.... "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." I think that there's some wisdom in understanding it coming together like this. What do you think? Would you share this with your pastor? I'm curious what he thinks about this post. Include the patent link if you do. https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship? Anybody who's read the Bible from cover to cover and has the Spirit of God to help them understand knows that the RC Popes have been called Father in violation to God's Word, thus making themselves types of replacements for the true Jesus Christ. Ie. A. Forgiveness of sins B. The foundation stone (Peter was the little rock). C. Accepting worship D. Calling themselves "The Holy Father (pope)" Matthew 23:9 Jesus said, "And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." I could go on for half a dozen more points, but this is enough. John said that there would be.many antichrists. Then in the book of Revelation there is one over ruling Antichrist with great power over all of the earth, not just one denomination. You said, "So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship?" The Sunday worship being the mark belief comes from a pseudo christian religious cult. It isn't worth your time or mine to even go there. No christians ever taught that. It is far beyond what is clearly in the Bible. This is the best place to start for further details that will lead to clear teaching on these end times. https://youtu.be/GxdXw7LFgukYet, you brag about how "intelligent" you are... People who have to constantly talk about how intelligent, successful, rich or good looking they are, usually aren't.
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" how is that not a vaccine"
Vaccines are made from the actual virus. Not according to my Dr. I saw last Thursday, while discussing this vaccine he said it wasn't made from the virus at all. I don't know who to believe anymore. Definitely some anonymous poster on the campfire. Definitely.
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Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?
Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject? Here you go slumlord. This is the plan after what gates called his "final solution." He started this company to make $ and control the world economies through his "Verification MARK.". He calls it that because he probably wanted to pick a biblical term. Lol. This is his patent and the details. Nothing is certain as elon musk even has a version. One thing I believe is that forced vaccines and other things like central banking, buying or selling or having a job will be implemented eventually. The quantum dot might be one of the technical vehicles to make it work. The enzyme agent is Luciferase, that phosphoreses from its inserted location in the back of the hand, or elons in the forehead is likely fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-18 KJV.... "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." I think that there's some wisdom in understanding it coming together like this. What do you think? Would you share this with your pastor? I'm curious what he thinks about this post. Include the patent link if you do. https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship? Anybody who's read the Bible from cover to cover and has the Spirit of God to help them understand knows that the RC Popes have been called Father in violation to God's Word, thus making themselves types of replacements for the true Jesus Christ. Ie. A. Forgiveness of sins B. The foundation stone (Peter was the little rock). C. Accepting worship D. Calling themselves "The Holy Father (pope)" Matthew 23:9 Jesus said, "And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." I could go on for half a dozen more points, but this is enough. John said that there would be.many antichrists. Then in the book of Revelation there is one over ruling Antichrist with great power over all of the earth, not just one denomination. You said, "So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship?" The Sunday worship being the mark belief comes from a pseudo christian religious cult. It isn't worth your time or mine to even go there. No christians ever taught that. It is far beyond what is clearly in the Bible. This is the best place to start for further details that will lead to clear teaching on these end times. https://youtu.be/GxdXw7LFgukYet, you brag about how "intelligent" you are... People who have to constantly talk about how intelligent, successful, rich or good looking they are, usually aren't. Here it is for EVERYONE to see. Where do I brag about being so intelligent??? Ask any true Bible believing Christian on this board if these aren't just a few basics they learned reading the Bible. They would likely tell you both the same. It has NOTHING to do with my IQ. It has to do with spending a little time with the Lord and His Word. You would do well to listen to the link. That is for your highest blessing. I couldn't give you $10,000 and come close to that.
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doesn't matter what words are put on the various parts, or methodologies, doesn't matter if the stuff is 90% effective in trials. are any numbers going down, regardless of complications or not,( what pile you put the bodies in)? Giving, or pointing your finger at Gates, is as ignorant as thinking he invented MSDOS or any other computer stuff. each new drug (vaccine or call it what you want) must have a unique process for manufacture or a unique piece 0f chemical machinery to be patented. with the strides in genetic research the last 20 years, the old definitions are misleading, if not incorrect. " how is that not a vaccine"
Vaccines are made from the actual virus and will make you immune from that virus. If you get these "vaccines" you won't be immune from COVID-19. Did you watch the whole video? The video was full of innuendo and double speak. Lots of "qualified" statements. Name the vaccines which actually prevent ANY replication of a pathogen within the body. Instead of preparing the body to resist the infection as it begins. If the vax prevents illness when exposed to a pathogen, that is the definition of immunity. If the vax prevents illness in 95% of cases and leads to a lessor severity of illness in the other 5%, that's damned attractive to me. Vaccines have been made from actual virus in the past. That is not a requirement to meet the definition of a vaccine. Biologically active portions of the virus particle can now be artificially engeneered and duplicated in the lab. Those portions resemble the virus particle closely enough to stimulate immune response. And since no active virus was ever used in the process, the possibility of pathogen transmission is eliminated. It is not possible to "get the disease" from the shot. This
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So they could track the Modified/ activated part of RNA/DNA with a test of some sort as proof that you complied to directives to get the shot???
Nothing like that could possibly be used against you in a utopian Liberal Socialist Democrat society down the line when they have complete authoritarian control...
How is this vax any different in that regard than any of the multitude you received while in the military. Do not those dead virus, or weakened virus inoculations contain DNA and RNA? Could that genetic material also be tested for? Do not all of our polio, smallpox, flu, pneumonia, DPT, MMR, and all the other vax the kids are required before they start school contain DNA and RNA? Ahhhhhh... One they will look for? For compliance with their agenda of control..... Can the Socialist Dictatorial minions not track any chosen vax as a sign of compliance? If one chooses to avoid this vax because one does not like the shortcut methods of testing......great. Don't take it. If one thinks the likelihood of vax caused damage is greater than the likelihood of Covid caused damage.....great don't take it. But if one is actually at elevated risk of death, very severe illness, or possible long term deleterious effect from the Covid, please do not avoid the Vax because of politically motivated half truths or actual lies about its effects, contents, and development. For example, my daughter just sent me a meme showing that Covid Vax would cause the recipient to become sterile.. I mean really, she believes this schitt. Not to mention that I was voluntarily sterilized Dec 31, 1984, just as she was ten years ago. And the Vax is going to cause us to get AIDS! Really people, think about this schitt. How are you gonna get AIDS unless you expose yourself to AIDS. #frustration Ahhhh.... They dgaf about the others. It's not their agenda C19 explotation for dependency on the Govt is the agenda Liberal Socialist Democrat govt... C19 has been driven into peoples heads as a control. The Liberal Socialist Democrats now have that control/ fear ingrained into half the nations minds. People will believe the ones that give them everything . They trust the govt cause the govt supplies all their needs from birth to death. If ya say a lie enough it becomes the truth to many... Give it time under jo and the ho. Proof of vaccination will be mandatory for everything in day to day life. That and a microchip which they are coming out with to make our lifes easier in all things supposedly.... You give these people an inch they take a mile. And it never stops... I expect when joe goes on the welcome back china tour. The chinese will "gift" the USA and the world with their "recently developed" C19 vaccine. No one making a low level persistent bio wpn would ever develop a vaccine for it before releasing it all over the planet.. Nawww.... Especially for their govt and military and keep it hush hush... And everyone seems to sweep it aside the bucketheads did tihis schit to show the world how dependant we are on them and to unseat President Trump cause of his hardball stance agsinst the coksukka,s Joey will forgive em for it all....... We are f u c k e d as a nation......
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