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Ok i just found out my girlfriend just drew a cow elk tag. Now im trying to figure out which gun i should have her use to shoot it. Which one would you pick and why?

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I would use the 7mm-08. I have used it to start all of my grandchildren on deer and my step-daughter has used it to bag a bull elk. If you use a heavy for caliber bullet (such as a 160 grain Nosler Partition or Barnes TSX, or even a 175 Partition), you can find or make a load that won't kick as badly as the .25-06 with 120 grain bullets.

We have had good luck with the 160 grain Partitions in the 7mm-08 and, at modest velocities, in my wife's .280. My step-daughter did a stint in the National Guard and qualified as "expert". Her deer/antelope rifle is a .25-06, but she borrowed one of our 7m-08s to hunt (and kill) her elk.

In the interest of full disclosure: IMHO I think that either would work fine with proper bullets and proper shot placement. She should use the one that she likes to shoot the best.


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I hope my friend Dennis from Arizona logs on here....

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Unless she is truly proficient with firearms, I suggest she toss the largest, heaviest slug possbile downrange. So 7mm. If she's an olympic class marksperson, then whatever she wants.


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I really don't think marksmenship has too much to do with it. If she makes a bad shot with a 7-08 vs the 257 then the results will be the same, even with a marginal shot.

As long as the shots are broadside I doubt it would matter. If there was a quartering shot then the 7-08 would have the advantage with conventional bullets but I bet with barnes or even partitions performance would be similar. The 257 would help on longer shots where range estimation would come into play.

I have never shot an elk with less than a 270 caliber so take that for what its worth,.

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I'd let her pick whichever one shes most confident with. Has she shot either one?

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7mm-08 with a 120gr TSX! grin Or any quality bullet would be my first choice of the two. I prefer heavier bullets and more frontal area.


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"I prefer heavier bullets and more frontal area." Why 120g in .284 then? Why not a 115g TSX in .257 going alot faster?

Seems to me the advantage of the .284 is the heavier bullets available.

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While I own one of each, neither would be my choice of an elk round, but my first question would be which one does she like to shoot. Neither is much of a kicker, so rifle fit is probably the key....and don't ever let her shoot the Roy without ear protection or she's ruined for life. wink

I guess if push came to shove, I'd probably go with the .257 Roy and the heaviest TSX. But wouldn't feel undergunned at all with the 7-08 with 160 Parititons or lighter Barnes.

Of course, I use a .338, so what do I know?


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Bottom line, get both rigs in her hands and let her tell you which one without knowing a thing about cals.

Both will work just fine for her.

IMO it is all about fit and feel and what is comfy to her and not about cal.

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A good shot with either is a dead elk.

I plan to fully explore the 7-08 120gr TSX next year on black bear, deer, mnt goat, and elk. I have no doubt a good shot will work wonders and know a poor shot usually has poor results, regardless of chamber or bullet weight.


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Evidently my friend Dennis is paying attention to something else.

He lives in Arizona, but we met a few years ago and have done some hunting together. I introduced him to the Nosler Partition and he has been loading it a lot since then. His kids draw cow elk tags now and then in AZ, and I believe they have taken them all with the .250 Savage and 100-grain Partitions. One shot through the ribs, right behind the shoulder, dead elk.

Now everybody (except Mark) can go back to discussing minor differences in bullet weight and diameter--or angling shots, etc. Why on earth force a new elk hunter to take a tough shot on a cow?

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I am going to kill my meat cow with a 257 roy here in the next few weeks....seen it do some nice work on everything it runs into.


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Should work just fine. I am thinking of using mine on for my next elk hunt.

I also know a couple who own a one-section "ranch" in New Mexico, on the edge of one of the elk-famous mountain ranches. So far she has killed 17 elk in a row with the .257 Bob, all one-shot kills.

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Based on my experience with the two, they are very close in terms of what they do to the life support system of a critter. I would use partitions or tsx in either one. In really open country I'd tote the 257roy.In thicker stuff I'd go with the shortest most handy gun, the 7-08 in most models is perfect.

I would let her pick the one she likes best if there is any difference between them to her,after all it's her time to shine.

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Originally Posted by kyreloader
"I prefer heavier bullets and more frontal area." Why 120g in .284 then?


It was a sarchastic referance to another thread, hence the "grin".


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I think i have decided on having her shoot the 7mm-08 because it has less recoil and my .257 weatherby is alittle long for her. So now what bullet would you shoot out of the 7mm-08 for a cow elk.

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Factory or roll your own?

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Gotta hit the rack, can't wait for your answer, impatient and sassy I guess........grins

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