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I think i have decided on having her shoot the 7mm-08 because it has less recoil and my .257 weatherby is alittle long for her. So now what bullet would you shoot out of the 7mm-08 for a cow elk. Ya, probably a good choice. You might want to take her out to the range and try both rifles. However, I'm guessing that it would be the same result in the end, i.e. she would choose the 7mm-08 over the .257 Weatherby. Now, if you were comparing the 7 to a .257 Roberts, that might be a different story.
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Mark, I agree with that. I'd put her to the test shooting both rifles at targets; first at the bench, then as you'd shoot in the field. That little test would be good practice anyway, and it'll tell you all that you need to know.
Personally, I'm rooting for the 257 Wby., but I suspect she'll shoot the 7mm-08 best...........
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I roll my own and im thinking of the 120 tsx but im not sure yet. Will these also work good for deer and antelope or will they just zip right through without doing much damage. For deer and antelope im thinking the 120 grain ballistic tip but i kindof just want to stick with one bullet for elk, deer and antelope.
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One bullet for all I'd vote for and if used in an intelligent manner then the 120 TSX will do her just fine.
We've all read the testimonies over the years about the Roberts and 117's on game and the 7/08 with a 120 is pretty much about the same dawg.
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What dober said about ammo.
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neither caliber, if its over 200 yards and then it's iffy if the exact spot is not hit.
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17 elk with the 257 Roberts? Since the +P loading just came out recently, does that mean she used the anemic 117 gr roundnose at 2650 fps muzzle velocity (Remington factory load) for the majority of them?
And the 250 Savage with a 100 gr bullet (typically around 2800 fps)...it doesn't just bounce off?
Kind of makes you believe the guys who use a .243 for elk aren't completely clueless!
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cdhunt,
You mean the 7mm-08 bounces off past 200 yards? One of my buddies here in Montana has three sons, who have killed over 30 elk with the 7mm-08 (mostly with 140-grain bullets) out to 400 yards and have never lost one.
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ZINNNNGGGG!!! LOL
JB you always have real world experiences to back up your points, which is why I enjoy and respect your posts!
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neither caliber, if its over 200 yards and then it's iffy if the exact spot is not hit. Your out your friggin mind! The biggest bodied deer I've ever watched killed. Was taken with one shot at 257yds with a 7-08 and 140 gr partitions. The hunter was my 14 yr old son. That buck looked like it got smashed under Godzill's foot! Infact it was so violent that any critter, Moose ,elk, grizz included woulda crumpled at the shot! My wallet says add another 100 yds to that shot and the results would been the same. 200 yds? Dude, get real.. I guess the 4x4 blacktail I hit between the eye's at 319yds forgot he was out past 200. Same gun same load. After what I've seen the last 7 yrs ain't any critter safe at even 400yds. Bottom line that -08 with 140 partitions is "overkill" on deer. if You wanta use a bigger caliber than thats just personal preference. Not because it's needed. My kid is magic when it comes to killing critter's! At this point if your a bull elk at 300. Well, your simply a dead bull at 304yds. Cuz my kid just knocked you on your ass!
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You guyz gotta get some experience. I mean didn't you know that @ 201 yds all things go to heck in a handbasket.......grins
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Actually, it's 200.000000000000000001 yards. Sheez Mark, don't you know anything 
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Only what I've read in the rags.....grins
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neither caliber, if its over 200 yards and then it's iffy if the exact spot is not hit. This sounds like something I saw on one of the Saturday morning hunting funnies program. The erstwhile host spends about 15 minutes explaining how you need an "adequate controlled expansion bullet" like the 160 grain Swift A-Frame he was using in his 7MM STW. After a hearty "let's go huntin" pep talk he hops into his buck buggy and cruises down to the outhouse on stilts for his evening adventure. Near the end of show Ol' Nimrod passes up a perfect broadside shot at a medium sized whitetail buck that the onscreen laser rangefinder overlay said was 212 yards across the food plot from his box stand because it was "just too far to insure a proper bullet placement." HBB
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I haven't pulled the trigger on a centerfire yet that wouldn't do the job just fine out to 300. 200yds. OTFLMAO!!
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150 partitions and a nice dose of H4350.
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cdhunt,
You mean the 7mm-08 bounces off past 200 yards? One of my buddies here in Montana has three sons, who have killed over 30 elk with the 7mm-08 (mostly with 140-grain bullets) out to 400 yards and have never lost one.
JB John, That wouldn't be "Elk", would it? He had a great article in Rifle (or maybe it was Handloader) a while back about the 7-08 and his family's success with it. Regards, Marty
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Do you have a copy of that article? I'd love to read it.
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All members---I feel very good, now that I have awakened your brains about 7mm-08 and 257. You know it does everyone good once in a while to get their blood pressure elevated, it clears up a lot of things. Also it shows that we are still americans and can voice our opinions, as it should be. The 7mm-08 and 257 in whatever rifle and or configuration are some good calibers, and in the proper hands can do the work intended. Continue to voice your opinions strongly and it will become a better america. CD
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