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What was the combined cost of the trigger and Mr. Holliger's magic?
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I have several (5) RRA Match triggers and sent two of them to White Oak Precision for Mr. Holliger to do his magic on, one for my RRA Varmint and the other my Armalite AR10. Might be better triggers but for the money you can't beat RRA triggers even without doing anything to them.
Steve......... I'm with you on that one. No need to send it to WOA to polish them out though. They are easy enough to work on.. If I were incapable of working on a simple trigger, I'd either give it up or buy a Larue tactical MBT2S...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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So what do you guys do with the terrible, awful, gritty, crunchy, stock triggers you pull out? Save them. Sometimes people actually use them on cheap builds. Ive given a few triggers away. I save all the parts like grips, charge handles, safeties, etc. I used one in a 7.62x39 build with a JP spring kit in it. Honestly, I like it quite a bit.
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I have a sweet shooting AR that had a sloppy stock trigger. I ordered a RRA 2 Stage NM Trigger and had a quality gunsmith install it. Since I plan on shooting CMP and Pres 100 with it, it needs to pull at least 4.5 pounds to be legal. After considerable work, it wouldn’t pull more than 3 pounds 12 ounces. My gunsmith had to order an $11.00 springs kit, and finally found one that pulls right at 5 pounds. I shouldn’t have to spend $40 in gunsmith labor, $11.00 for parts and 52 miles of back and forth mileage to get a trigger that will operate the way it is advertised to work in the first place. Granted, it’s a sweet trigger now but only after a major pain in the butt.
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I have a sweet shooting AR that had a sloppy stock trigger. I ordered a RRA 2 Stage NM Trigger and had a quality gunsmith install it. Since I plan on shooting CMP and Pres 100 with it, it needs to pull at least 4.5 pounds to be legal. After considerable work, it wouldn’t pull more than 3 pounds 12 ounces. My gunsmith had to order an $11.00 springs kit, and finally found one that pulls right at 5 pounds. I shouldn’t have to spend $40 in gunsmith labor, $11.00 for parts and 52 miles of back and forth mileage to get a trigger that will operate the way it is advertised to work in the first place. Granted, it’s a sweet trigger now but only after a major pain in the butt. You are right, you shouldnt have to. You should be able to do that simple chidt yourself.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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bsa: You miss my point. The RRA NM Trigger is advertised as pulling 4.5 pounds and it won’t. Whether I was capable of working on the trigger myself or not is a moot point. The trigger doesn’t perform as advertised. Having shot competively for over 40 years and being a Distinguished Rifleman for 35 years, I know my limitations. I don’t know how to safely adjust the poundage on a Match trigger so I need to depend on the manufacturer to build a quality trigger that performs up to spec. When it doesn’t, I’ll use a trained gunsmith rather than botch the job myself.
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You can buy a spring kit from Brownells. Bought a couple of JP Enterprises 3.5 # spring kits for use with the stock trigger doesn't cure all the ills but is less poundage and they use the stock trigger pins fine so you don't have to buy anti walk pins extra. 12.69 a set. Mb
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Update to my original post: I got the Triggertech and it was super easy to install and it has a great feel to it.
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I bought the ssa-e on sale, its is my fav out of the ruger 452, larue mbt, and a couple other cheaper ones i have.
That being said, it is not 100-125 dollars better than the larue mbt, the mbt is great trigger for the price. I heard great things about the RRs too, but never tried one.
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I bought the ssa-e on sale, its is my fav out of the ruger 452, larue mbt, and a couple other cheaper ones i have.
That being said, it is not 100-125 dollars better than the larue mbt, the mbt is great trigger for the price. I heard great things about the RRs too, but never tried one. Rock River was what I had a looong time ago in my White Oak service rifle. They don't suck, but their not a G LaRue is, IMO, the best buy. I've got maybe a dozen. I've got a few G triggers, and the LaRue is 90+% the trigger for half the money.
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My favorite that I've tried so far is the three pound Velocity. It's a heck of a nice trigger.
Thinking about trying a 2.5 pound CMC in a future 6mm or 22 Grendel build. I don't like the idea of no tensioning adjustments though. Seems like for the money it costs, you shouldn't have to jam stuff under the trigger to get it stable.
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My favorite that I've tried so far is the three pound Velocity. It's a heck of a nice trigger.
Thinking about trying a 2.5 pound CMC in a future 6mm or 22 Grendel build. I don't like the idea of no tensioning adjustments though. Seems like for the money it costs, you shouldn't have to jam stuff under the trigger to get it stable. Yeah, the Timney and Trigger Tech’s I have do have the tensioning adjustments. I have several of the CMC’s, and while they don’t come with tensioning screws, I haven’t personally noticed any movement due to the lack of them. The CMC triggers DO come with anti-walk pins. These are $15 if you buy them separately from CMC. They USED to be some pins with c-clips that were easy to lose. The last few I’ve bought have had pins with screws on each end, instead, and come with the needed wrenches to install them. Joe Bob Outfitters still has them for $139 each.
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My favorite that I've tried so far is the three pound Velocity. It's a heck of a nice trigger.
Thinking about trying a 2.5 pound CMC in a future 6mm or 22 Grendel build. I don't like the idea of no tensioning adjustments though. Seems like for the money it costs, you shouldn't have to jam stuff under the trigger to get it stable. Yeah, the Timney and Trigger Tech’s I have do have the tensioning adjustments. I have several of the CMC’s, and while they don’t come with tensioning screws, I haven’t personally noticed any movement due to the lack of them. The CMC triggers DO come with anti-walk pins. These are $15 if you buy them separately from CMC. They USED to be some pins with c-clips that were easy to lose. The last few I’ve bought have had pins with screws on each end, instead, and come with the needed wrenches to install them. Joe Bob Outfitters still has them for $139 each. Thanks, I might go that direction.
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Are most trigger pins now the "small" size?
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My own experience is somewhat limited but if you put in a drop.in after market trigger, tension screws or not you need the anti walk trigger pins period. Mb
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Update to my original post: I got the Triggertech and it was super easy to install and it has a great feel to it. Did you get to Shoot your rifle with the new trigger installation yet?
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Update to my original post: I got the Triggertech and it was super easy to install and it has a great feel to it. Did you get to Shoot your rifle with the new trigger installation yet? No, I have not done so. What little time I have right now I have been spending rabbit hunting before it goes out of season next month. I might be able to squeeze out a few shots to check function. Are you thinking slam fires or pins getting loose?
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Single stage go with a Timney 3lb. Two stage go with a Geissele SSA-E. I have both triggers and they are nice.
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Update to my original post: I got the Triggertech and it was super easy to install and it has a great feel to it. Did you get to Shoot your rifle with the new trigger installation yet? No, I have not done so. What little time I have right now I have been spending rabbit hunting before it goes out of season next month. I might be able to squeeze out a few shots to check function. Are you thinking slam fires or pins getting loose? No just curious on how you like the trigger, live fire. I do not own a trigger tech but I’ve heard good things about them.
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