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Do you have a graduate degree in psychometrics? Nope. Law. But I can think fairly well. I don't have an MD either, but some MDs have have gotten medical issues completely wrong that I understood correctly. Degrees aren't always the end of the answer. And the MB tests have been around for a really long time and evolved over time.
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Interesting. INTJs are, I think, about 0.5 percent of the pop.
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Tests aren't validated by anecdotes of how well the results appear to match individuals. It requires large samples and proper controls. The fact that you believe it is useful indicates how successfully it has been marketed.
When my job involved the purchase or contracting of various tests, I rejected any marketing that was supported by testimonials. I wanted to see the actual validation studies.
Tests like this do make for interesting discussions as in group meetings, but the problem arises when they are given too much credence and are used for such purposes as making hiring decisions. +1 marginally useful exercise to get people to think about the fact that what they think of as reality is flavored by aspects of their own personality, and the same is true for everyone else. It immediately goes off the rails (IME) when almost everyone seizes it as a reason they are right.
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Tests aren't validated by anecdotes of how well the results appear to match individuals. It requires large samples and proper controls. The fact that you believe it is useful indicates how successfully it has been marketed.
When my job involved the purchase or contracting of various tests, I rejected any marketing that was supported by testimonials. I wanted to see the actual validation studies.
Tests like this do make for interesting discussions as in group meetings, but the problem arises when they are given too much credence and are used for such purposes as making hiring decisions. +1 marginally useful exercise to get people to think about the fact that what they think of as reality is flavored by aspects of their own personality, and the same is true for everyone else. It immediately goes off the rails (IME) when almost everyone seizes it as a reason they are right. You're both off subject, but I started a new thread to give you a place to vent about the defects in the MB stuff: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/15695293#Post15695293
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I don't have a degree in law, but I have had a fair amount of legal training, but that doesn't qualify me to address legal issues with any authority. Would you consult a psychologist on legal matters? If you are a lawyer, research the statutes and case law on psychological testing, particularly for decisions involving employment.
The problem with a test like MB isn't its informal use to facilitate discussion, it's that too many people are so sold on it that it is used to make decisions about individuals. That is unethical and, under certain circumstances, illegal.
I'm out of this discussion.
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Does Myers Briggs factor in how you "identify"
Say you "identify" as a Viking warrior, but are working in a gyno-tatership...
How does that affect your score?
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It called me an ass hole.
With hilarious levels of detail.
LOL
Thanks for posting.
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In this day and time why would I voluntarily want to click the buttons on my keyboard for anything like that?
Am I just being paranoid if they are really after me/
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I don't have a degree in law, but I have had a fair amount of legal training, but that doesn't qualify me to address legal issues with any authority. Would you consult a psychologist on legal matters? If you are a lawyer, research the statutes and case law on psychological testing, particularly for decisions involving employment.
The problem with a test like MB isn't its informal use to facilitate discussion, it's that too many people are so sold on it that it is used to make decisions about individuals. That is unethical and, under certain circumstances, illegal.
I'm out of this discussion.
A lot of thought went into this from people with all the requisite degrees. I didn't create it. They did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16PF_Questionnaire
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I just took it it says I'm an NSDAP anyone know the deal there?
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I just took it it says I'm an NSDAP anyone know the deal there? Did it ask you if you shoot a .270?
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I just took it it says I'm an NSDAP anyone know the deal there? Nazi.
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It was pretty close.
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I never said it wasn't interesting. I said it was of unproven validity, and it has nothing to do with the intelligence and awareness of anybody.
Do you have a graduate degree in psychometrics? There are established standards for the use of psychological tests.
I should have known better than to comment here.
Like you said, to each his own. Carry on. I think it's great that you're commenting here. I haven't taken the test, but I wonder what my being glad we have what appears to be a voice of reason here has to say about my personality,
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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It called me an ass hole.
With hilarious levels of detail.
LOL
Thanks for posting. And were those details accurate? I took it some years ago, INTJ it claims. It did seem fairly accurate, especially some of the weaknesses.
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