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Anyone who thinks a new party is a good idea should just imagine how happy you'd be if the dem split into the socialists and the dems. Got it? Pretty much already has happened. Wish they'd finalize the divorce, publicly.
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75% of Republican's "leadership" are communist, and 100% of the Democrats both rank and file voters and their leadership too.
We the People need to be We the People and stop trusting the government to do anything be abuse their power.
Quit paying for the destruction of your own kids.
Agreed. All this talk of politics is moot. There will be no peaceful solutions. You aren't voting your way back to the America you wish still existed.
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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If I was Trump and was sitting on a few billion dollars and wanted to leave a lasting legacy, I'd take out a hit on every worthless POS traitor that voted against America.
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If I was Trump and was sitting on a few billion dollars and wanted to leave a lasting legacy, I'd take out a hit on every worthless POS traitor that voted against America. A few weeks ago you were blaming him for what was happening in Portlandia? If you were Trump, you wouldn’t have been sitting at home with your thumb up your ass for the last four years waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting.
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Campfire Ranger
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75% of Republican's "leadership" are communist, and 100% of the Democrats both rank and file voters and their leadership too.
We the People need to be We the People and stop trusting the government to do anything be abuse their power.
Quit paying for the destruction of your own kids.
Agreed. All this talk of politics is moot. There will be no peaceful solutions. You aren't voting your way back to the America you wish still existed. That option doesn’t exist any longer. It’s fight or flight now. No civilized solution to this problem.
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To prevent trump from running again would require a separate vote from the impeachment conviction vote.
IF the senate votes to convict, preventing another run for office is not automatic.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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This should be interesting. KY is sending a message to Mitch that I believe the entire GOP will be watching. I read on Newsmax that the KY GOP is considering censuring good ole Mitch. If they do, that will send a clear message to every republican in the Senate. Even without it, I wrote to Senator Blackburn of TN and she answered that she doubted 17 republicans would vote guilty and that some Dem's may also not vote guilty as well.
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I'd add a fourth pt Republicans need to quit worrying and advocating against abortion. When you look at the figures and demographics of the women who use abortion for birth control not having more of their kids won't hurt the country more than the dems do. Conservative and religious women do not even consider having an abortion. The ones that do we don't need reproducing anyway. It's a real hotspot with all women and it's costing the conservative right elections. Leave the issue alone until you have total support of overturning roe vs wade by women. Mb
The best thing that could happen to the country would be to recognize the truth - Abortion and gun control have been settled by the Supreme Court. We should stop endlessly thrashing the same two issues over and over and get on with other pressing matters.
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To prevent trump from running again would require a separate vote from the impeachment conviction vote.
IF the senate votes to convict, preventing another run for office is not automatic.
It only takes a majority after a conviction. Basically it is automatic.
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So who will the 17 Republicans be that vote to convict?
There are of course the obvious ones. Romney Murkowski Collins
Then the ones that have condemned President Trump publicly McConnell Paul Graham Cronyn Sasse
Who else will vote to convict. Blunt? Burr Cotton? Ernst? Lee? Rubio Toomey?
Thoughts
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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If I was Trump and was sitting on a few billion dollars and wanted to leave a lasting legacy, I'd take out a hit on every worthless POS traitor that voted against America. A few weeks ago you were blaming him for what was happening in Portlandia? If you were Trump, you wouldn’t have been sitting at home with your thumb up your ass for the last four years waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting. Sorry jack, but no one is buying your horseschit.
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Trump could threaten to campaign to get everyone of them primaried in upcoming elections if they side with the DEMs. Nearly 80 million followers were behind him, and I would venture to say a big majority of them are still on his side regardless of what the politicians or media say about his involvement in the capital riot...We all heard him say to peacefully protest that day...If he started his own social media platform he could possibly gain more followers and have a massive amount of reach and power...The idiots need to pay attention, he could truly hose a lot of them in future elections...I guess that's why they are all so scared of him in the first place..If I was a Republican Senator, I'd much rather have him out there ripping away negatively at everything the DEMs are doing than pissing him off and turning him against me...
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Trump could threaten to campaign to get everyone of them primaried in upcoming elections if they side with the DEMs. Nearly 80 million followers were behind him, and I would venture to say a big majority of them are still on his side regardless of what the politicians or media say about his involvement in the capital riot...We all heard him say to peacefully protest that day...If he started his own social media platform he could possibly gain more followers and have a massive amount of reach and power...The idiots need to pay attention, he could truly hose a lot of them in future elections...I guess that's why they are all so scared of him in the first place.. Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Trump could threaten to campaign to get everyone of them primaried in upcoming elections if they side with the DEMs. Nearly 80 million followers were behind him, and I would venture to say a big majority of them are still on his side regardless of what the politicians or media say about his involvement in the capital riot...We all heard him say to peacefully protest that day...If he started his own social media platform he could possibly gain more followers and have a massive amount of reach and power...The idiots need to pay attention, he could truly hose a lot of them in future elections...I guess that's why they are all so scared of him in the first place.. Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count. I still have hope that at least some of the State Legislatures and Governors will fix that. I know at least Arizona's state legislators are looking into it already...
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There is only one party, in reality, dimocrats , with the republicrats as a subchapter, The politicians only owe allegiance to getting money and power. They will say and do whatever is required to achieve those goals.
"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson
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They all seem to have a price. The question is who has the ability to pay their asking prices.
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All of them are crooked, and no longer valid
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Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
You're a dope.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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The OP asked for a prediction.
My prediction is that five Republican senators will vote to convict. That means acquittal.
Acquittal will help the Trump brand.
BTW: The five will be senators whose next election is not until at least 2024.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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We don't need a third party. We need to gut the GOP and transplant with conservative patriots and blue collar workers with half a brain.
MAGA
Its never going to happen. The establishment will crush any primary challenger to the status quo and offer the same lesser of two evils option. Republicans will vote to impeach, they don't want Trump the head of a third party ticket.
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