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99% of the LEO's in this country will obey orders, whatever they are..........in other words, they'll come and help the Feds take our guns.


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I see people flocking to sanctuary counties and states. It will boil down to the feds circling the last strong hold and going to war. The national media will not show any of it because that would turn public opinion of terrorist label to patriots. Watching men, women and children being shot by the fed or Blue hats won't go over well. The fence sitters would join in and we would have a war that makes the last civil war look like a police action.

I think people need to prepare but not be paranoid.

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Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
Our county is a 2nd Amendment sanctuary. I don't think confiscation would go over very well.

Our NATION is a 2nd Amendment sanctuary. If some official doesn't uphold the sanctity of the Law, they should be dealt with swiftly, and with prejudice.


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Nope.

If it's a federal law our locals are out of the loop. BATF will ratchet up and be beating in doors.


I see it more like the Feds on there wolf management and fines and or penalties for smoking one or a pack..Some law enforced it and others turned a blind eye or made it a self defense issue..Most law stayed out of it but some got involved in favor of common sense..Loose lips sink ships always applies...


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They tried the whole "register everything" in Canuckistan, and even those nice, pliable, compliant Canucks had a less than 10% compliance rate, and the whole scheme slowly faded away.

No telling how many pieces of 6" PVC pipe are buried around Australia, with certain contents, that nobody talks about. But I was told it was hard to get 6'" caps around the time of the great turn them in events.

Heck, 30 years ago I was working for a farmer in Holland in the potato harvest, and ran across what I now think was a Schmeizer, with a case of ammo, tucked into the corner of a barn. It had been "get your arse thrown in jail" illegal for dang near forty years by then, and the guy I worked for wasn't even born yet during the War.

Confiscation is not that simple, and simple non-compliance is a good place to start.


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Originally Posted by windridge
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Nope.

If it's a federal law our locals are out of the loop. BATF will ratchet up and be beating in doors.


Wasn't it Federal immigration law that CA and the other blue Dem states chose to disregard and not enforce? Didn't they pass state laws that forbade LEOs from enforcing or cooperating with Fed authorities?

How are unconstitutional laws disregarding 2A legally enforceable by state, county. local LEOs sworn to uphold the US Constitution? BTW in some states, 2A is incorporated in the state constitution, therefore binding upon state, county and local LE.

I'm not kidding myself that many LEOs won't follow orders (Nazi Germany?) and enforce unconstitutional laws, but for those citizens who follow the Constitution, there are facts to consider.

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
" ... Fwiw, my opinion is that Every Good Citizen should stringently obey every single law passed by our benevolent government because they know what's best for us.


You're correct, Jim. After all, Big Brother & Big Nanny know what's best for us .... don't they? wink

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Originally Posted by x2501
I think they’d be more amenable to Trump supporters if the MAGAs were not seen beating LEOs with Trump flags and fire extinguishers and dragging them down stairs of the Capitol...
Do you even understand the issue? The crux of the matter has nothing to do with whether one is, or is not, a Trump supporter, and amenability certainly does not apply.

Please provide video of the beating and dragging of which you write.


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I have faith in small town rural law,not so much big city law...Seeing how Boise and Coeur d'alene have changed from even the 80-90's is worry some..They both were okay places back then,not so much now..CDA is a suburb of Spokane and Boise is awful compared..Friends I grew up with are moving out as fast as they can...

I still trust rural law,especially now with what is most likely coming..


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Originally Posted by x2501
I think they’d be more amenable to Trump supporters if the MAGAs were not seen beating LEOs with Trump flags and fire extinguishers and dragging them down stairs of the Capitol...

How many MAGA folks shot officers sitting in their cars in 2020? How many marched down the streets "Pigs in a Blanket, fry 'em like bacon."


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Originally Posted by 700LH
The SCOTUS Heller decision everyone so highly praised included "reasonable restrictions" and will be used against the 2nd Amendment to the fullest.

Pretty sure the Biden administration's definition of reasonable is slightly different than ours, for sure.


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Originally Posted by logcutter
I have faith in small town rural law,not so much big city law...Seeing how Boise and Coeur d'alene have changed from even the 80-90's is worry some..They both were okay places back then,not so much now..CDA is a suburb of Spokane and Boise is awful compared..Friends I grew up with are moving out as fast as they can...

I still trust rural law,especially now with what is most likely coming..


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And don't forget that Boise has a left wing female mayor now.


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I'm not saying they won't try it. But it seems to me that door to door confiscation would turn into an enormous mess.

On the other hand, the more I see from the government, the more I think that they're trying to initiate an enormous mess.

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And don't forget that Boise has a left wing female mayor now.


I was shocked to see that having grown up there and back then new most of the police by name..After the service I was quick to move to McCall but now it's as bad as Boise..Back then they had a mill and it was a logging town...My wife was in the police dept there when I met her and why I keep saying the rural police/sheriffs are like the old Boise police used to be..

I feel sorry for the big city police now with everything going on,there damned if they do and damned if they don't..Another reason I think the police will side with rural america on 2nd amendment rights.. There getting screwed now bigtime in my opinion..


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush




Times to start asking them publicly what they intend to do, and whos side they are on.

None of this "Fair Weather Friend" BS.

Lets see them come out in public and choose a side.



With an exception here or there, they are not going to buck the way the wind is blowing.

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Originally Posted by 700LH
The SCOTUS Heller decision everyone so highly praised included "reasonable restrictions" and will be used against the 2nd Amendment to the fullest.

The black robes have freedom of speech to communicate "their" beliefs, and the citizens have have freedom of speech to communicate theirs, except ours will be communicated via burning gun powder.

Shall Not Be Infringed.


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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by 700LH
The SCOTUS Heller decision everyone so highly praised included "reasonable restrictions" and will be used against the 2nd Amendment to the fullest.

The black robes have freedom of speech to communicate "their" beliefs, and the citizens have have freedom of speech to communicate theirs, except ours will be communicated via burning gun powder.

Shall Not Be Infringed.

Go ahead and turn em in cghunt


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Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by 700LH
The SCOTUS Heller decision everyone so highly praised included "reasonable restrictions" and will be used against the 2nd Amendment to the fullest.

The black robes have freedom of speech to communicate "their" beliefs, and the citizens have have freedom of speech to communicate theirs, except ours will be communicated via burning gun powder.

Shall Not Be Infringed.

Go ahead and turn em in cghunt

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Back when we had Trump in office it was pretty easy to stand up and be a flag waver. To wrap yourself in Patriotism and the flag and tell all of your constituents that you would not support gun control measures, or confiscation.

It was very easy, because there was not a Socialist in the Whitehouse.

Pretty easy way to get votes and get the public on your side.



Now everything has changed.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

Biden has made it clear that they plan for massive registration and confiscation.


ARs get registered as NFA items or turned in.

Magazines either get turned in or registered as NFA items.

It is obvious where this is heading.

Since the election, I have not heard a single PEEP from a Sheriff or Chief of Police about protecting our 2nd Amendment rights.

Suddenly they are super quiet..

Times to start asking them publicly what they intend to do, and whos side they are on.

None of this "Fair Weather Friend" BS.

Lets see them come out in public and choose a side.








Not that it's going to make a difference to anyone here who has already made up his mind, but I'm clearly on record (as recently as last week) verbally and in writing to my BOS and Town Administrator regarding a crusade an ex-State Rep is still carrying
My BOS, and the Town in general, are very clear where I stand.

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