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I believe the vaccinated, can still carry and transmit the virus, though the vaccinated will not or should not get the virus. Thus the mask requirement. That is very much up for debate at this point. Truth is, there are no studies yet that are conclusive, only conjecture. There is a lot of that around. Much like the "if you've had it you are only good for a month before you lose the antibodies", which has now turned into 12 months. Remind me how along the CHINA FLU has been around?
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Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
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Read the whole back of the mask packaging that I was issued and forced to wear at work, to protect people from the deadliest virus on earth...
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As nearly as I can estimate, simple cloth masks are just about entirely useless, much like trying to stop mosquitos with a chain link fence. Disposable medical masks probably provide a little bit of protection. N95 masks probably do provide a moderately useful level of protection, though far from absolute.
So, for the most part, masks are a chicken squeezing exercise. What's that you say? Well, when egg production is down, you appoint someone to go around squeezing the chickens. It annoys the chickens, and it doesn't really help, but it allows you to say that you are "doing something about" lagging egg production.
Be not weary in well doing.
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When forced I wear a polyester neck gaiter. They don't chit but hey........it's considered a mask so
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My workplace requires us to wear a mask, they give us a bunch of the folded medical kinds. I complied with all the rules there and also when out in town, I still got Covid.
I think the masks help some, but not a whole lot. The mask police would have you believe you're going to die a certain death if you don't wear one, but you're perfectly safe if you do wear one. I think that's naïve.
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Campfire Ranger
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My workplace requires us to wear a mask, they give us a bunch of the folded medical kinds. I complied with all the rules there and also when going into business out in town, I still got Covid.
I think the masks help some, but not a whole lot. The mask police would have you believe you're going to die a certain death if you don't wear one, but you're perfectly safe if you do wear one. I think that's naïve. You got COVID & lived to tell about it? Gotta be fake news...
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Maybe the vaccinated could be identified somehow, perhaps a gold star attached to their outerwear.
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Maybe the vaccinated could be identified somehow, perhaps a gold star attached to their outerwear. Or A tat on the forehead, maybe a M, P,JJ or AZ....... That way if one or more of the so-called vaccines goes bad they'd be like a lepper.
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You got COVID & lived to tell about it?
Gotta be fake news...
My case was pretty mild, wasn't even a bad cold. I also know several people that have died from it. I know the braintrust around here like crow about how it's just the flu and there's nothing to it unless you've got other health problems but they're wrong, one of them was a healthy 34 year old. I don't agree with the lockdowns and what's been done to the economy, but pretending there's nothing to it is dumb.
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I find these discussions to be both positively and negatively enlightening. I’m of the opinion that masks are as useless as tits on a bore. There are always comments about the effectiveness of masks. Is there any conclusive evidence that the Chinese virus is primarily airborne? If the evidence is there I’ve missed it and not because of a lack in looking.
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So far only about 400+ people have died out of several million doses. That is a very, very low percentage. It could also be from other reasons. Local hospital says the virus given is dead, but it causes your body to produce antibodies. Very similar to the flu or pneumonia vaccines. It may have to be given once a year like the flu vaccine due to mutations. The death rate is no worse than any other vaccine. My 88 year old mother gets hers tomorrow. She still drives and does volunteer work. Your hospital misinformed you. There is no actual virus in any of the currently available Covid vaccines. Dead or otherwise. The vaccine consists of genetically engineered particles which simulate a viral attack and cause the body to produce immunizing agents.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Well, as I understand it, the vaccine is nothing more than a mask for the symptoms. Well said!
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"If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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So far only about 400+ people have died out of several million doses. That is a very, very low percentage. It could also be from other reasons. Local hospital says the virus given is dead, but it causes your body to produce antibodies. Very similar to the flu or pneumonia vaccines. It may have to be given once a year like the flu vaccine due to mutations. The death rate is no worse than any other vaccine. My 88 year old mother gets hers tomorrow. She still drives and does volunteer work. Well, she can forget about having anymore babies.
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So far only about 400+ people have died out of several million doses. That is a very, very low percentage. It could also be from other reasons. Local hospital says the virus given is dead, but it causes your body to produce antibodies. Very similar to the flu or pneumonia vaccines. It may have to be given once a year like the flu vaccine due to mutations. The death rate is no worse than any other vaccine. My 88 year old mother gets hers tomorrow. She still drives and does volunteer work. Done bit of reading on this (I used to be close to your position) but it is not actually a vaccine more like cold medicine that they inject. So: This is more like Thera-flu killing 400+ people. Which is way more than the '90s Tylenol thing.
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Manufacturing industries must have reason to believe the covid-19 "pandemic" will be with us for quite a while longer as they're big into mass producing face masks in all kinds of popular brand and designer names, colors, fabrics, patterns as well as all kinds of other covid-19 related products.
Lol...THAT is exactly why it is, and will be, with us. It's an industry. A very lucrative industry. When the Mexican Cartels get caught smuggling fake masks into the US...you know it's big money.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Why don't you freedom loving whineyazz babies go without masks or vaccine. Just STFU and do your thing, what you think doesn't matter or don't you all get that ?
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Why don't you freedom loving whineyazz babies go without masks or vaccine. Just STFU and do your thing, what you think doesn't matter or don't you all get that ? Because.gov and liberals won't let us live free
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Why don't you freedom loving whineyazz babies go without masks or vaccine. Just STFU and do your thing, what you think doesn't matter or don't you all get that ? Because.gov and liberals won't let us live free This. It's their plan to make life impossible for those who haven't been vaccinated.
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As nearly as I can estimate, simple cloth masks are just about entirely useless, much like trying to stop mosquitos with a chain link fence. Disposable medical masks probably provide a little bit of protection. N95 masks probably do provide a moderately useful level of protection, though far from absolute.
So, for the most part, masks are a chicken squeezing exercise. What's that you say? Well, when egg production is down, you appoint someone to go around squeezing the chickens. It annoys the chickens, and it doesn't really help, but it allows you to say that you are "doing something about" lagging egg production. Masks wearing helps limit transmission. An example is someone with BS for brains not wearing a mask when they have COVID without symptoms. Going to church and spreading it to others and some die.
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