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Bushnell is impressive, and not surprising, perfect score.



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Alraedy posted a few months back. Been doing the same testing for 4 years. Meanwhile the dip hits kept saying shoot it

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dumb question, were is the swfa scopes on that list,,,

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Interesting.

Maybe I missed it but looked like they didn't actually test the scopes mounted on rifles being shot during the test session. I'd think that would make a difference


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Originally Posted by SBTCO
Interesting.

Maybe I missed it but looked like they didn't actually test the scopes mounted on rifles being shot during the test session. I'd think that would make a difference



That has nothing to do with tracking.

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dumb question, were is the swfa scopes on that list,,,
no but I have tested 4 in the same manner. which ones are you interested in?

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Originally Posted by 300stw
dumb question, were is the swfa scopes on that list,,,



Couple of reasons;

SWFA stuff is generally accepted as being reliable in the tracking department, and they aren't a real big seller in the market that study is focused toward.

SWFA really needs to update their line.

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Originally Posted by liliysdad
Originally Posted by SBTCO
Interesting.

Maybe I missed it but looked like they didn't actually test the scopes mounted on rifles being shot during the test session. I'd think that would make a difference


That has nothing to do with tracking.


It seems like it would have to do with tracking when it counts.

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Originally Posted by 300stw
dumb question, were is the swfa scopes on that list,,,


At the beginning, they said they had no options on which scopes they received.


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Originally Posted by mathman
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Interesting.

Maybe I missed it but looked like they didn't actually test the scopes mounted on rifles being shot during the test session. I'd think that would make a difference


That has nothing to do with tracking.


It seems like it would have to do with tracking when it counts.



No, it doesn't. If the scope fails to track after being subjected to recoil, that's a reliability and durability issue, not one of mechanical tracking.

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OK, but what good is tracking "in a vacuum"? I want one that reliably and durably tracks.

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Originally Posted by mathman
OK, but what good is tracking "in a vacuum"? I want one that reliably and durably tracks.



That's a completely different criteria..you have to start with something that is designed and built to consistently track before you can expect it to do so under duress. In most cases, a scope that tracks in a repeatable, consistent manner in a sterile environment will continue to do so in use....and ones that don't track for [bleep] don't get better under recoil.

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I would hope those attending the class had practiced with their gun/ scope combinations enough that any initial recoil-induced problems would be evident by the time they got to the class. The data indicates some of the scopes weren't up to the challenge.

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I noticed the only brand that scored 100 across multiple models with an appreciable number tested was Kahles.

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IF IT DON'T TRACK WHEN ITS STATIC MOUNTED IT SURE IS HELL AINT GOING TO FIX ITSELF WITH RIFLE RECOIL, this is a concept nearly everyone on this forum is dumbfounded over. recoil is not going to fix a [bleep] tracking scope. you do this type of testing when you first buy a scope, you can do it also later to check it. Yes recoil can and does cause issues with tracking. but you check this first to identify what problems there are BEFORE Wasting ammo.

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Nowhere did I assert recoil would cure anything.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Nowhere did I assert recoil would cure anything.
I am saying this for others, getting sick of people saying this type of testing has no value, its a not knowing shat from shineola mentality. but I guess many think a new scope is always an excellent tracker. I contend however most scopes that track like crap, do so brand new out of the wrapper.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
IF IT DON'T TRACK WHEN ITS STATIC MOUNTED IT SURE IS HELL AINT GOING TO FIX ITSELF WITH RIFLE RECOIL, this is a concept nearly everyone on this forum is dumbfounded over.


No, it's not. You're hung up on this because a few people criticize your experimental design, not your purpose. I've never seen anybody tell you that static testing has no value, just the way you implement it is not very trustworthy.

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...recoil is not going to fix a [bleep] tracking scope. you do this type of testing when you first buy a scope, you can do it also later to check it. Yes recoil can and does cause issues with tracking. but you check this first to identify what problems there are BEFORE Wasting ammo.


I agree with you there.

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