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I’ll make yet another prediction, as I hate it as much as anyone... the border won’t be open this year... period...

Treadeau doesn’t give a shiit about guide/outfitter business.... makes me sick

Judman

I have to say I agree with you and hate it too

To be honest Trudeau doesn’t give a rats butt about anyone but himself...

Makes my head explode

These new rules announced last week, might be the final nail in the coffin of Canadian tourism. My opinion is that these new rules are pure communist.


https://www.breitbart.com/health/20...antine-designated-government-facilities/

Hmmmm. None of this seems to portend well for the border opening to people in transit between Alaska and the Lower-48 this summer.....

Well. if this is true, there goes my Anticosti trip (paid for last year), a planned Newfoundland moose hunt (for 2022), and several visits to friends in Quebec this summer. I am sure I can find places to spend my money in the US.

Morning All;
It is my sincere hope and prayer that any and all reading this are well and further that your respective family and those who matter to you are also well. In the end, that's truly what matters.

I'll attempt to be uncharacteristically brief while hopefully throwing out some food for thought.

The situation up here as Steve noted is several levels above any of our individual control and truly above the control of any special interest groups we're members of - for instance Guide Outfitter's Associations or Tourism Boards.

One can truly only imagine the frustration felt by people who have their entire life savings being flushed down the bowl before their eyes. Here in BC, tourism is one of the largest employers, one of the largest small business generators and in 2018 generated $20.5 Billion in direct revenue and generated a direct contribution to B.C.’s gross domestic product of $8.3 billion.

If there was a way to mitigate the circumstances quickly, please believe we'd do that.

Some mention what is happening here politically and indeed the cynical might point out that since our current federal government has basically no representation west of Ontario and very little representation in any rural parts of Canada, we may not even appear on the list of things they give a rotund rodent's rectum about.

There are plusses coming from this, as far as lessons being learned about our inadequate care for seniors, emergency preparedness in general and vast overreaching control that governments provincial and federal are able to exert over us "regular folks".

Please note that here in BC we've had it relatively better than other areas. The provincial government declared hunting and fishing essential activities so we're not ticketing folks in kayaks at least.

When life returns to whatever semblance of normal it is when we're all on the other side of this, I can say with certainty that all of the people in the tourism industry here in my part of BC will appreciate each and every visitor who chooses to spend their hard earned money up here.

Until then, my thoughts and prayers are with those who aren't well, with those who are loosing their life's work and lastly with those who are making decisions that will effect us all - and our unborn grandchildren as well.

Thanks for reading.

Dwayne

Want to trigger gunhaters and other unhappy Libs...wear a camo mask.

The opening of the borders doesn't have much public support. The call to close them has come more from the provinces than the federal government. Whether the Conservative premier of Ontario , he is the loudest, or the NDP premier of BC., both have called loudly .for it. If anything the federal Liberals have been hesitant.

I have been watching and reading as much as I could about this pandemic. I compare it to the Great Depression and the Spanish Flu rolled into one. The restrictions are something out of the World War rationing.

downwindtracker2;
Good morning to you my cyber friend, I hope that the last day of January finds you well.

There's nothing in your statements that I can disagree with.

For me it's been somewhat educational seeing Doug Ford's Conservative government enact more restrictive regulations than our NDP John Horgan. Weird isn't it?

While we can discuss and perhaps differ on why people are calling for closing the borders, I'd suggest that the media bombarding everyone with 24/7 fear mongering likely is a foundation for it. Even the little local news station in Kelowna can't open without telling us how many people died from beer flu and if none have, then how many were hospitalized and barring that how many new cases were reported.

Seldom will the media mention positive steps or trends or well anything positive for that matter... Okay other than the reporter who gets the "kittens, puppies and special interest" beat.

Your describing this as a combination of the Spanish Flu and Great Depression is in my view extremely accurate and may well be prescient too.

Here's to better and brighter days for us all sir. Thanks again and stay well.

Dwayne

Chuckle ,Dwayne There is something that doesn't get the attention it should. The news outlets report the UK variant as 30% more contagions, where as the English data, shows 55%. At that rate because of the greater spread, it could mean 11.5 times more deaths.. The English were able to figure it out because of a fluke,. the original variant in the PCR test triggered three positives, the new only two.

This is getting to be long.

Stay safe.

The steps being taken now, though still stupid in many respects, are largely what should have been done in both Canada and the US at the outset but, rather than bite the bullet and nip the whole thing in the bud, we chose to go with the halfassed approach. People were told we would wait for them to fly back from fricken Wuhan or Italy or Iran and, when they did, to please stay home and self isolate which, of course some did and some did not. We continue to welcome people on flight from where ever with open arms while limiting travel by car between small communities which were geographically isolated. Every plan either government comes comes up with is consistently stupid and that is the one constant. We seemed to make a conscious decision to suck up to the airlines while stepping down on everyone else. Everytime I see that self-serving bastard of a PM on TV, I would love to be there so I could walk up and slap him off the podium; socks and all.
Here locally, we are protected from people from Eureka, Montana while Fernie is seeing high infection rates from people from the lower mainland and from Ontario. At least they aren't crossing the border though, right? I'm a little sick of it.
Last summer, we co-operated with government suggestions and restricted access to our campground. This year, I'll suggest they print their suggestions up, roll the paper up tight, and pound it up their waste orifice. I'm getting moderately tired of this BS. GD

people will soon start to starve. as the food providers starve and cannot make more food....can youall not see the way it is going?

some folks need to educate themselves about this so called pandemic and grow a set. And if you are afraid of it, thats all fine with me, but just stay home then. Let the rest of us live.

If you think shots or masks do anything much you really need to take a few serious haz mat classes. But its Canada's call for sure. We are unfortunately heading the direction of socialism here too with so many already brainwashed like you folks.

In America, people will set their house on fire just to drive out that wascully wabbit!

Now you have to quarantine in a hotel on your own expense when arriving in Canada for the first 3 days. And if you have the virus then you go to a government hotel on your own dime until you are Covid free. This should slow down Canadians heading South and it appears this requirement is in place until the end of April.

On a positive note I heard that both governments are going to have talks to see about what opening the border would look like. My guess is I'll be happy my 2020 hunt got postponed to 2022. The next argument is if the outfitter wants to push me back again to accommodate 2021 hunters that may get postponed. At that point I want my money back as he already moved me from 2020 to 2022 while allowing 2020 hunters to get moved to 2021.

I agree with this. Too much News can be terrible for your health and well being as well. My elderly, retired parents have been basically sitting at home watching the News 14 hours a day for months now. I had to tell my mom she had to try and restrict herself to maybe one news update every couple days just to give herself a break. She has the impression that the world is in an apocalyptic state all around her. Meanwhile my wife and I both go to work as usual, get groceries, etc, etc but with some added social distancing and mask use.

Your outfitter is in the same position as the rest of us. We moved everyone from 2020 over to 21. We had no choice. If they dont open the border in 21, what other options are there? Its certainly not the outfitters fault. What few are considering is that many outfits wont be able to survive another year. I dont know about your outfitter, but I've been in the business for over 30 years now and I know lots of outfitters are weighing their options carefully right now. The big question is when to get out. Wait to long and your business is worth nothing, but then again are there any buyers now? Thats the real question. Quite frankly I dont know one outfitter that wouldnt sell tomorrow if they could get a decent price. Just to much uncertainty both with the virus, and the new administration. Should they follow through with their talk of banning big game animals from entering the country, then canadian outfitters are out of business the next day. That sadly is the reality of the current situation. Elections have consequences and this one could very well ruin the industry.

I've told this before about the news media. I came home on evening from work and sat in the easy chair. The TV came on and I saw a news clip about a guy stabbed to death. All during the news clip there was a cartoon shown in the upper corner of the screen. It was a cartoon of a revolver. How it had anything to do concerning a stabbing I am not sure. But that was a major station out of Kansas City. I have rarely watched the 6 o'clock since then and I wouldn't believe any of it anyway. Why bother. Anaside at that time up until I saw theat news clip I thought the NRA was full of it. No one is going to take my guns! Now the only thing the NRA takes is my money. Actually mine goes to the GOA. The news will rot your brain and maybe even your teeth! ... Bless you Canadians. Until this last US election I had more worries about you guys. Now the US gubmint has made it clear they want communism. Be Well, RZ.

The pandemic has really put Canada in a squeeze, we have had to act quickly. Most times we set up a Royal Commission and study the problem for a couple of years. And then only act on the easy recommendations. Really a boring country.

The impetus for stricter travel restrictions is the fear of the new variants, Because of the math ,a 55% greater spread for the UK one, the others could be worse, the third wave could be much worse than the first two.

We have . some historical precedent . The Spanish flu, which started in Kansas, BTW, went to Europe , mutated in a camp, and came back much more deadly.. Spain didn't have censorship like the rest of the world, so they reported on it.

This is no where near the spanish flu. It has a 99.9% survival rate and the vast majority that have it dont know they have it. The tests are junk, so we really have no idea how many people have it. Both ivermectin and HQ have proven to be extremely effective and are now getting the ok. Why it took so long for these two drugs to get the nod when they have been used by some doctors so successfully throughout this whole mess is a question more reporters should be asking. The answer of course is that they are cheap. Big pharma cant make any money off them, and the name of the game is money. If you doubt that watch this video about a family that had to take a doctor to court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6p...r-qQfcxkuXDAAp-5_kMiPpbV3Tszbvtau0VO3h54