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Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
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Why is this even a question? I'll tell you why, b/c the damn commies are doing everything they can to do an end-run around the Constitution, in order to seize our weapons so that we can all become good apparatchiks of the State.
F'n treasonous basterds.
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They just never ever stop. The Left is like an army of terminators.
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But... but... we have a "conservative" court, right? Nothing to worry about, right???
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All they gonna do is get some cops put down by folks who understand that the SCOTUS isn’t the last word.
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Well, yeah, worry.
If they fail at this they will try to up the court to 13 or 33, or 133.....additions all of a certain political outlook, or available for purchase or by blackmail.
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U.S. President Donald Trump said "We're going to take the firearms first and then go to court."
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U.S. President Donald Trump said "We're going to take the firearms first and then go to court."
Another sock-puppet sticks his dick out...
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The Supreme Court held that there is a community caretaking exception to the 4th Amendment’s warrant requirement because police perform “community caretaking functions, totally divorced from the detection, investigation, or acquisition of evidence relating to the violation of a criminal statute." The Court held that police activity in furtherance of these functions does not violate the 4th Amendment as long as it is executed in a “reasonable” manner.
This exception is not limited to immediate emergencies. That is one of the easiest constitutional standards to meet and is a significantly lower standard than “probable cause”, which is required for a warrant. As long as an officer might reasonably think that a warrantless search will alleviate a danger to the community, the search is considered constitutional. Now we know why gun owning Republicans are being defined on a daily basis is domestic terrorists and a threat to the community.
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Pawns. No. Let me correct that. Fearful pawns.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Seems to me like the 4th amendment is pretty clear. Exercising the 2nd to protect the 4th should clear it up.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Masks are to protect the health of the people.
Covid19 vaccines are to protect the health of the people.
Gun restrictions are to protect the health of the people.
I see a pattern.
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Seems every in of DC has been bought and paid for especially the so called "Justice dept"!
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Given recent precedent, the SCOTUS ruling depends on how fearful they are of riots in the streets........ That may be our cue...
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Make 'em wish it were only riots.
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Oral arguments before SCOTUS come up in March. District appellate courts have split over whether the action taken by police was constitutional. Personally it seems like a simple issue: If someone is a threat to themselves or others, get a court order. But, then, what do I know? Police, summoned after a non-violent domestic argument, searched the house without a warrant and seized two legally-owned handguns, then refused to return them. The question is whether the "community care taking" exception to the warrant and probable cause requirement extends to the home. There's a big split in the Circuits, and the Court granted cert.
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Oral arguments before SCOTUS come up in March. District appellate courts have split over whether the action taken by police was constitutional. Personally it seems like a simple issue: If someone is a threat to themselves or others, get a court order. But, then, what do I know? Police, summoned after a non-violent domestic argument, searched the house without a warrant and seized two legally-owned handguns, then refused to return them. The question is whether the "community care taking" exception to the warrant and probable cause requirement extends to the home. There's a big split in the Circuits, and the Court granted cert. There lies the danger. When you have a word like "reasonable" which can mean anything depending on who defines "reasonable". If the SCOTUS creates precedence based on this, claiming the police are justified, the Democrats will use the holy crap out of that precedence.
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The "community caretaker" characterization is wrong on so many levels, I can't even make a single logical comment to support it.
And it is surely a thing of beauty in it's vagueness & broad applicability by those that want to use it to their nefarious ends.
And it will be upheld in this case, as the SCOTUS & all the lower courts, are not interested in the letter & intent of the law as that can, & very likely will be easily be, over ridden by their self righteous zeal in erring on the safe side of the equation..................you know, if it saves just one life.
We, The People will lose this case, & by so losing, we will then have given carte blanche to those who want, intend to & will abuse it.................it will be open season on anyone & all things not in favor with some jurisdiction for local to federal level.
In other words, Katie bar the door.
In the end, this really isn't the ideal case to test this premise.
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Oral arguments before SCOTUS come up in March. District appellate courts have split over whether the action taken by police was constitutional. Personally it seems like a simple issue: If someone is a threat to themselves or others, get a court order. But, then, what do I know? Police, summoned after a non-violent domestic argument, searched the house without a warrant and seized two legally-owned handguns, then refused to return them. The question is whether the "community care taking" exception to the warrant and probable cause requirement extends to the home. There's a big split in the Circuits, and the Court granted cert. There lies the danger. When you have a word like "reasonable" which can mean anything depending on who defines "reasonable". If the SCOTUS creates precedence based on this, claiming the police are justified, the Democrats will use the holy crap out of that precedence. Much of this would seem to depend upon what verbally transpired during the police visit to the altercation. Threatening words can evoke strong responses from the police and rightfully so. Jmo
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