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I am currently looking at scoping a very clean, possibly unfired, H&R topper in 30-30. I want to use a period correct piece of glass, anything big and heavy would just be a shame.

I've been offered a Burris Fullfield gloss in 4 power, and a Leupold M8 gloss in the same magnification. Either would look great, and both are roughly the same price. Is there any glaring reason to pick one over the other?

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Both are great scopes. The Leupold is going to weigh 3-4 oz less.

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Originally Posted by mark shubert
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All else equal, even with the added weight, I'd go Burris every time...why? In an accurate rifle, move dial a couple clicks...the bullet hole moves correspondingly. Big deal? No, eventually you will get the Leupold where you want it, and then it will be fine. But it just seems wrong to have to fire 15 or 20 rounds to zero a scope. In the meantime, the little bird of self doubt is tweeting in your ear, "did I muff that shot, or has the erector failed to respond to the dial changes?"


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HR toppers are not old guns. What do you mean by "period correct"? I have a SS 6x on my Henry single shot and it works great and balances great.


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For myself I'd stick with the leupold, no question. Easier to sell if you ever go that way, and they are light and tough. No dialing with a topper so set and forget is not an issue.

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Originally Posted by sbhooper
HR toppers are not old guns. What do you mean by "period correct"? I have a SS 6x on my Henry single shot and it works great and balances great.



1977 is not what I consider "modern," but to each their own. Im absolutely not strapping a SS on top of a gun that might weigh 6lbs to begin with.

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I’d take the Burris. There are a lot of used Leupolds out there. I don’t see that many used Burris 4x scopes for sale.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I’d take the Burris. There are a lot of used Leupolds out there. I don’t see that many used Burris 4x scopes for sale.



This is the route i decided to take. I knew the Leupold would be the more popular choice, but something about the older Burris stuff just speaks to me.

I do like being a little weird at times, as well. I can't explain why this little rifle interests me at all, but it does...maybe it's because it's weird, too.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
All else equal, even with the added weight, I'd go Burris every time...why? In an accurate rifle, move dial a couple clicks...the bullet hole moves correspondingly. Big deal? No, eventually you will get the Leupold where you want it, and then it will be fine. But it just seems wrong to have to fire 15 or 20 rounds to zero a scope. In the meantime, the little bird of self doubt is tweeting in your ear, "did I muff that shot, or has the erector failed to respond to the dial changes?"



As long time Leupold fans my peer group would use 2 people for the initial sight in.

Shooter would shoot the rifle over a steady rest and sand bags. After the shot he would look through the scope and have an accomplice steer the cross hairs to the bullet hole with e adjustments.

Then shoot a group and make any minor corrections.

If you needed more than 6 shots to zero you just were not paying attention.

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I have a Burris 4X fullfield I bought new in 1984 and it has been dead nuts reliable and lived on several known scope breaking rifles. Very good scope in my book


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All else equal, even with the added weight, I'd go Burris every time...why? In an accurate rifle, move dial a couple clicks...the bullet hole moves correspondingly. Big deal? No, eventually you will get the Leupold where you want it, and then it will be fine. But it just seems wrong to have to fire 15 or 20 rounds to zero a scope. In the meantime, the little bird of self doubt is tweeting in your ear, "did I muff that shot, or has the erector failed to respond to the dial changes?"



As long time Leupold fans my peer group would use 2 people for the initial sight in.

Shooter would shoot the rifle over a steady rest and sand bags. After the shot he would look through the scope and have an accomplice steer the cross hairs to the bullet hole with e adjustments.

Then shoot a group and make any minor corrections.

If you needed more than 6 shots to zero you just were not paying attention.


This is an easy way to sight in any scope. I do it by myself sometimes with very sturdy rest.


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Either one is a good choice for the H&R 30-30. This was my son's first deer rifle and has worn an older B&L made Bushnell Banner 4X the whole time. It is a great match for that rifle. The Burris or Leupold 4X would be even better.


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