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The various gene therapy regimens referred to as COVID 19 vaccines, "use mRNA to program a person's cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus."
- The American Society of Gene and Cell Therapy That's exactly what an infection does. How is this gene therapy, but every single viral infection you've ever had isn't?
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One of my best friend die this week from COVID-19 he was the same age as me, 74. We were in the same school classes for many years.
Wife and I got our first COVID-19 shot 2 weeks ago, scheduled our second shot for 2 weeks from now. on the bright side, at your age you wont be seperated very long LMFAO 😂🦫
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The various gene therapy regimens referred to as COVID 19 vaccines, "use mRNA to program a person's cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus."
- The American Society of Gene and Cell Therapy That's exactly what an infection does. How is this gene therapy, but every single viral infection you've ever had isn't? I suggest you take your argument to The American Society of Gene and Cell Therapy. Perhaps you can correct their erroneous understanding on the matter. 
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The various gene therapy regimens referred to as COVID 19 vaccines, "use mRNA to program a person's cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus."
- The American Society of Gene and Cell Therapy That's exactly what an infection does. How is this gene therapy, but every single viral infection you've ever had isn't? That podcast I posted explains it very well. It explains why these aren't vaccines in the traditional sense.
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How is it gene therapy? I'm asking in good faith for you to explain it to me.
I'll let Bill Gates explain it to you. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/153524.jpeg)
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How is it gene therapy? I'm asking in good faith for you to explain it to me.
I'll let Bill Gates explain it to you. Bill doesn't know WTF he is talking about, either. NO vaccine uses an "antigen" for a pathogen. That's not what vaccines are, and the theory of vaccination has nothing to do with "antigens" being externally introduced into organisms to fight pathogens.
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How is it gene therapy? I'm asking in good faith for you to explain it to me.
I'll let Bill Gates explain it to you. Bill doesn't know WTF he is talking about, either. NO vaccine uses an "antigen" for a pathogen. That's not what vaccines are, and the theory of vaccination has nothing to do with "antigens" being externally introduced into organisms to fight pathogens. An antigen refers to the dead or weakened virus, which triggers an immune response, i.e., triggers antibody production.
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One of my best friend die this week from COVID-19 he was the same age as me, 74. We were in the same school classes for many years.
Wife and I got our first COVID-19 shot 2 weeks ago, scheduled our second shot for 2 weeks from now. on the bright side, at your age you wont be seperated very long LMFAO 😂🦫 +1 LMFAO 😂
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I have noticed that those who opt for the vaccine tend to not give a schit if others get it or not.
I have also noticed that those who opt out of getting the vaccine tend to berate those that get it.
STFU already. all I care about is that people don't bully me, force me, or restrict my movement and activity. I have zero interest in getting this vaccine. I have zero issue with anyone else that wants to get it. Just leave me the [bleep] alone.
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This. Can't be repeated often enough. It's genetic manipulation. I know we've been over this, but I'll interject one more time. It is NOT genetic manipulation. RNA does NOT alter DNA. EVER. It's medically impossible. That's high school level biology. It's really similar to an infection and "natural immunity" because the virus injects it's mRNA into the host cell. Saying it's not a vaccine is ridiculous. Even our most universally effective vaccines aren't 100 percent effective. Overall the vaccine is already having positive effects. Look at the success Israel is having in their case rate. It is NOT A VACCINE.The Polio shot and Smallpox are vaccines.One shot and you are done.The Covid shot does not immunize you from getting covid more than once.People are expiring from the shot. https://theblacksphere.net/2021/02/shocking-cdc-reports-on-covid-vaccine-deaths/
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Hey all you folks bitchin about the vaccine, heck, you've been eating hot dogs all your life and you don't know what's in that either. 
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Hey all you folks bitchin about the vaccine ... Setting aside for the moment whether our reservations about it can be characterized as "bitchin," it's not a vaccine. It's experimental gene therapy, and you're one of the lab rats. PS This approach to COVID19 type viruses was tested in the early 2000s, and was rejected due to dramatically negative outcomes after extensive animal testing.
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Yesterday, the hospital where my wife works had a computer conference about COVID that lasted about an hour. Some big wig Doctor was hosting it. Close to the end of the conference the Doctor said he wasn't taking the mRNA "vaccine". He said that there was another "vaccine" coming out in the summer that he was waiting for. I think it was the Johnson and Johnson "vaccine" that he was referring to that's coming out in the summer.
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Yesterday, the hospital where my wife works had a computer conference about COVID that lasted about an hour. Some big wig Doctor was hosting it. Close to the end of the conference the Doctor said he wasn't taking the mRNA "vaccine". He said that there was another "vaccine" coming out in the summer that he was waiting for. I think it was the Johnson and Johnson "vaccine" that he was referring to that's coming out in the summer. By then, COVID19 will have passed into history.
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I hope I can get my second shot, damnations
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Thing is it's not a vaccine at all.
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How is it gene therapy? I'm asking in good faith for you to explain it to me.
I'll let Bill Gates explain it to you. Bill doesn't know WTF he is talking about, either. NO vaccine uses an "antigen" for a pathogen. That's not what vaccines are, and the theory of vaccination has nothing to do with "antigens" being externally introduced into organisms to fight pathogens. An antigen refers to the dead or weakened virus, which triggers an immune response, i.e., triggers antibody production. No, an antigen refers to a specific protein produced by a pathogen. Humans are exposed to dead or weakened viruses (so the experts claim) through "vaccination". Antigens do trigger an immune response, but a pathogen may produce several antigens than cause an immune response, or just one. What Gates said is misleading at least, and I would call it a lie. It's like a mechanic talking about your engine using a special expensive oil so it can last a 5 million miles. That doesn't happen, and if it did, the rest of the car wouldn't last that long. It's an oversimplification sales technique that removes all the concept of risk.
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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Yesterday, the hospital where my wife works had a computer conference about COVID that lasted about an hour. Some big wig Doctor was hosting it. Close to the end of the conference the Doctor said he wasn't taking the mRNA "vaccine". He said that there was another "vaccine" coming out in the summer that he was waiting for. I think it was the Johnson and Johnson "vaccine" that he was referring to that's coming out in the summer. Supposed to be attached to, or inserted into, an adenovirus.
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