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I read it and there's nothing in there that prevented ERCOT from using whatever generating sources they needed to maintain the reliability of the grid. The order limited them to using only what was necessary to maintain the grid, and if you read it, it was required by law because ERCOT had determined that they would exceed air quality standards. All the order did was limit them from continuing to use the extra generation and exceed air quality standards once the extra generation wasn't required to maintain the reliability of the grid.

Do you clowns really believe that if the federal government had caused the disaster in Texas, the only place you'd hear about it would be infowars and the 24hourcampfire?

And last but not least, it wasn't an executive order from Biden, but don't let that stand in the way of a good story.



All the order did was limit them from continuing to use the extra generation and exceed air quality standards once the extra generation wasn't required to maintain the reliability of the grid.
According to your statement Texas couldn't use extra generation if it exceeded air quality standards.This sounds like federal government regulation to me.

Do you clowns really believe that if the federal government had caused the disaster in Texas, the only place you'd hear about it would be infowars and the 24hourcampfire?
Of course not,the fake news will broadcast all of Dementia Joes Bidens mistakes just as they've done in the past.lol.They informed the American public of Hunter Biden's deal with Burisma and the funds he received from China.They also informed the American public of the contents of his laptop including the video of him smoking crack cocaine.They also displayed all the pictures of Hunter Biden standing among children with his robe open and naked beneath the robe.

Perhaps the Fake News will,at some time in the future,inform the American public that Hunter Biden received 83K a month for his expertise in energy exploration and development.We can certainly count on the Fake News to tell the American public the truth as you inferred.lol


Let's not ignore this part of ERCOT's statement:

To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably.

This reads like government regulation to me.Part of the green new deal the Demonrats want to inflict on this nation and also part of Biden's executives orders concerning false climate change which will cause as much pain and death as possible.




But to what executive order by Biden to you refer?







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The fictitious one.



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Originally Posted by rte

Joe Biden signs executive orders to cut US oil, gas and coal emissions.

WASHINGTON — In what would be the most ambitious U.S. effort ever to stave off the worst effects of climate change, President Joe Biden is aiming to cut oil, gas and coal emissions and double energy production from offshore wind turbines through executive orders Wednesday.


rte: This is why quoting BS stories from infowars is a bad thing. What you quoted above is a real executive order that will have real consequences. The left, AOC, and green new dealers have enough really bad ideas and initiatives that there's no need to make stuff up.

Using infowwars, "Q," and the like as sources for the truth just erodes credibility of conservative causes.



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Since Texas voted red in 2020, maybe this is a little payback from the current admin.?.?.?


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Originally Posted by smokepole
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Joe Biden signs executive orders to cut US oil, gas and coal emissions.
WASHINGTON — In what would be the most ambitious U.S. effort ever to stave off the worst effects of climate change, President Joe Biden is aiming to cut oil, gas and coal emissions and double energy production from offshore wind turbines through executive orders Wednesday.
rte: This is why quoting BS stories from infowars is a bad thing. What you quoted above is a real executive order that will have real consequences. The left, AOC, and green new dealers have enough really bad ideas and initiatives that there's no need to make stuff up.
Using infowwars, "Q," and the like as sources for the truth just erodes credibility of conservative causes.

What I gleaned from the OP's story was the quotes from Greg Abbot's declared state of disaster and his request to not restrict their energy output.ERCOT,which appears to be some sort of green organization,issued statements that indicated they would adhere to federal air quality standards regardless of the emergency.This information was in his links.

It also stated that the Acting Energy Secretary David Huizenga, acting on behalf of the Biden administration,refused to waive environmental regulations to allow for more generation of power.This is perhaps the reason the OP laid the blame at the doorstep of Dementia Joe Biden.

I really don't care what source some members use as long as they inform on issues of which the fake news refuses to report.


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Seems every time POTUS Trump issued an EO there was some leftaaaard shill in the courts that would halt implementation of the EO. Where are all the "conservative" judges that were confirmed by the republican senate during the Trump administration that could perhaps throttle china Joe's flurry of EOs?

If we had a congress and court system that actually did anything, EOs would not be so prevalent.

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Originally Posted by rte

It also stated that the Acting Energy Secretary David Huizenga, acting on behalf of the Biden administration,refused to waive environmental regulations to allow for more generation of power.


That is incorrect. I think you should go back and read it.



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Originally Posted by crshelton
I live in Texas and know that we have let our base line power generation infrastructure degrade while spending money on unreliable "renewable energy" projects for the last several years. FACT!

We know the problem and how to fix it. We shall see if we have the gumption to do so. Based on recent performance, I am concerned.


This. It's time for some new natural gas/ nuclear power plants here in Texas. Screw whoever doesn't like them.

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Originally Posted by RiverRider
I am convinced there IS a conspiracy theory mill, and it churns out BS to mask the truth behind a smokescreen of impenetrable misinformation and nonsense. They've been doing this for years. Don't ask me who "they" are, suffice it to say that there are forces in existence whose goals are generally known but keep themselves somewhat well concealed.



It's a lot simpler than that. It's so simple that it's baffling more people haven't figured it out. These people make their living off websites, and the websites bring in revenue based on the traffic they generate. The more outrageous the "headline" the more traffic it generates and the more people like the OP will pick it up and re-post it, generating more clicks and more revenue.

The simple truth is not a good revenue-generator.



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Originally Posted by bobinpa
Since Texas voted red in 2020, maybe this is a little payback from the current admin.?.?.?


Self-inflicted by ERCOT, and the "T" stands for Texas.



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Imagine that. In the guise of "public safety", a whole bunch of people are needlessly harmed. How? Why? Government is good!


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
Info wars...

And sportingspecialist.......


Apparently neither of you were smart enough to follow the link and read the official paperwork provided.





I read it and there's nothing in there that prevented ERCOT from using whatever generating sources they needed to maintain the reliability of the grid. The order limited them to using only what was necessary to maintain the grid, and if you read it, it was required by law because ERCOT had determined that they would exceed air quality standards. All the order did was limit them from continuing to use the extra generation and exceed air quality standards once the extra generation wasn't required to maintain the reliability of the grid.

Do you clowns really believe that if the federal government had caused the disaster in Texas, the only place you'd hear about it would be infowars and the 24hourcampfire?

And last but not least, it wasn't an executive order from Biden, but don't let that stand in the way of a good story.



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Originally Posted by Chisos
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I live in Texas and know that we have let our base line power generation infrastructure degrade while spending money on unreliable "renewable energy" projects for the last several years. FACT!

We know the problem and how to fix it. We shall see if we have the gumption to do so. Based on recent performance, I am concerned.


This. It's time for some new natural gas/ nuclear power plants here in Texas. Screw whoever doesn't like them.


No it is time to reopen the most reliable power generating plants, the coal fired ones. Natural gas has problems with freezing and Nuke plants need a lot of water which also can freeze forcing them to shut down.


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What do you think produces the electricity in coal fired plants????

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What do you think produces the electricity in coal fired plants????

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He's talking about the huge amounts of cooling water nuke plants need, not the steam that everyone knows runs turbines.



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Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Info wars...

And sportingspecialist.......


Apparently neither of you were smart enough to follow the link and read the official paperwork provided.





I read it and there's nothing in there that prevented ERCOT from using whatever generating sources they needed to maintain the reliability of the grid. The order limited them to using only what was necessary to maintain the grid, and if you read it, it was required by law because ERCOT had determined that they would exceed air quality standards. All the order did was limit them from continuing to use the extra generation and exceed air quality standards once the extra generation wasn't required to maintain the reliability of the grid.

Do you clowns really believe that if the federal government had caused the disaster in Texas, the only place you'd hear about it would be infowars and the 24hourcampfire?

And last but not least, it wasn't an executive order from Biden, but don't let that stand in the way of a good story.



Retard.



LOL, great "retort." Telling though, that's it's all you've got.

"Natural gas has problems with freezing." What a stroke of genius, that must be why no northern states or Canada use natural gas, eh?

It's like saying "indoor plumbing is a bad idea, because water pipes can freeze like they did in Texas."



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Originally Posted by Chisos
Originally Posted by crshelton
I live in Texas and know that we have let our base line power generation infrastructure degrade while spending money on unreliable "renewable energy" projects for the last several years. FACT!

We know the problem and how to fix it. We shall see if we have the gumption to do so. Based on recent performance, I am concerned.


This. It's time for some new natural gas/ nuclear power plants here in Texas. Screw whoever doesn't like them.



It's time to just get a big old heaping stack of coal and tell the regulators to F off .


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Totally untrue i was up in Canada little over a year ago traveled most of the province of Alberta. Canada is doing just the opposite of what you said. They are closing Coal fired plants.

In a couple years only natural gas will exist in Canada. They are more than half way thru shutting down all the coal fired plants.

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