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Folks keep singling out AshB as unarmed ,
Ignoring she was part of armed mob.
If you had an armed mob breaking into
your property , would you give leniency
to anyone of them if they got too close
to your family or friends?..I suppose if
you can't see a weapon you must safely
assume the felon doesnt have one...LoL.
better explain what SCOTUS means to starfish Its a sad story , but with prior military experience and as a mother with the responsibility of young children, she shouldn't have joined a violent armed mob breaking into capitol. ( I'm not talking about the protestors on the mall) First thing you do when you see a violent armed mob destroying schit is run the other way and not join it. Every adult knows this. The useful idiots that broke into the capitol and vandalized it and then stole schit while taking selfies did a huge disservice to people who supported Trump. Hard to feel sympathy for dumb adults who did incredibly stupid things.
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CCCC you have a serious aversion to discussing LAW pertaining to the LE response in the Capitol building against a felon. If you want an opinion poll then do one, but it means zilch to me since education in the prevailing law is what really matters here.
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CCCC you have a serious aversion to discussing LAW pertaining to the LE response in the Capitol building against a felon. Well, Starbucks, you almost got it right. I understand the LAW quite well and completely, and often discuss it with various interesting people, but I do have a a serious aversion regarding any attempt to discuss anything with you because of your proclivity for pseudo mind reading and your mad dog ad hominem tendencies.
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I understand the LAW quite well and completely,
Completely ?..LoL. If you actually had any reasonable understanding of SCOTUS rulings in relation to Fed LE use of force policy , you wouldn't be whining about AshB. I'm happy to discuss SCOTUS/use of force. Where do you want to start ?
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I understand the LAW quite well and completely,
Completely ?..LoL.If you actually had any reasonable understanding of SCOTUS rulings in relation to Fed LE use of force policy , you wouldn't be whining about AshB. I'm happy to discuss SCOTUS/use of force.Where do you want to start ? Not whining - disgusted. Seems like nothing makes you happy, so why stoop to discuss. If you are seeking a happy moment, why don't you go whack a Christian?
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Disgusted at AshB breaking the law or disgusted at security acting within the law ? If you are discontent with the action of that officer , you can cite the policy and law he contravened. . Seems like nothing makes you happy,
Opinion Polls , now personal happiness ,.wtf? you got any more subjective dumbschit crap that doesnt relate to the law of the land when committing felony ? Perhaps throw in your scatterbrain faith in bronze Age Bible story myths? ..why don't you go whack a Christian?
Find me a real one.
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Always got yer back pard😎
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Yes and yes
When you're tasked with protecting individuals and have retreated to the last defensive position and the crazy Qtard lackeys are breaking through the last fortified barrier, it's time to make it rain.
But ya, the shooter should be released along with the reports that document the incident. You are still nothing but a POS leftard. That is more grounds for shooting than Babbit had and she was murdered, not threatening anyone. Unlike you exalting in the murder of an American citizen. I voted for Trump and believe the election was stolen by fraud, dumbas s Well then Fuqtard stop exalting in the death of someone who did and felt the same way! If you fail to show moral character go ahead and be a leftist POS because if you think murder is ok with you, especially that of one of us then GFY. It wasn't murder. If that moron hadn't smashed a window that was barricaded and attempted to breach it, she wouldn't be dead. Sometimes stupid hurts, especially if you're a Qtard. Would you do what she did? My post above indicated that street talk had identified David Bailey as the agent that shot Babbitt.... for what it's worth, here's an article that refutes that: https://www.theepochtimes.com/with-...l&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-25-3 If this article is accurate, I stand corrected and apologize for the misinformation...
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Gateway pundit this morning is showing photos of Babbit's shooter, no name but the photos are clear, shouldn't be a problem to ID him. They are saying he was a lieutenant in Capitol Police.
Pictures shows him waving his pistol in a group with finger on trigger too, poor training?
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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too many stupid bitches,, we need to git rid of a few..
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Folks keep singling out AshB as unarmed ,
Ignoring she was part of an armed mob.
If you had an armed mob breaking into
your property , would you give leniency
to anyone of them if they got too close
to your family or friends?..I suppose if
you can't see a weapon you must safely
assume the felon doesnt have one...LoL.
AFAIC, any adult who willfully choses to run
with such a mob in the act of felony is not
exempt from equal treatment, especially
when they are the individual leading the pack
through the window.
Another question would be, how would they know she was unarmed? Who is to say if she were armed, she would have put the gun somewhere on her person so she could crawl through the barricade? If the officer was told to shoot anyone who comes through that barricade, then he did absolutely nothing wrong. This has been investigated and it was not recommended to bring the officer up on charges which would lead one to believe that the officer was following orders.
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Gateway pundit this morning is showing photos of Babbit's shooter, no name but the photos are clear, shouldn't be a problem to ID him. They are saying he was a lieutenant in Capitol Police.
Pictures shows him waving his pistol in a group with finger on trigger too, poor training? Whoever the pos coward is, he needs to be hung in front of the Capitol Building.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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My opinion is that it was unjustified, but legal. Seems contradictory but that's how I feel. Is there a civil lawsuit there somehow?
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CCCC you have a serious aversion to discussing LAW pertaining to the LE response in the Capitol building against a felon. Well, Starbucks, you almost got it right. I understand the LAW quite well and completely, and often discuss it with various interesting people, but I do have a a serious aversion regarding any attempt to discuss anything with you because of your proclivity for pseudo mind reading and your mad dog ad hominem tendencies. What policy or ROE was the officer who shot Ashli operating under?
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My opinion is that it was unjustified, but legal. Seems contradictory but that's how I feel. Is there a civil lawsuit there somehow? It is not contradictory. It often happens that deadly force is authorized doesn't deliver the best possible outcome. The law necessarily has to be structured so as not to judge an officers actions through the lens of hindsight though.
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Nobody considers this was a False-flag event?
Anybody see Ashlee’s dead body?
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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If what ribka has stated is true (and I have no reason to doubt what he said) then I'm fine with the shoot.
The problem I have is that not one journalist has dug into the what and whys of the event.
Yet every officer involved shooting between Gentle George and the Capitol received national levels of attention and investigation.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Nobody considers this was a False-flag event?
Anybody see Ashlee’s dead body? Pfffft. I haven't even heard a statement from the Capitol Police.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I understand the LAW quite well and completely,
Completely ?..LoL. If you actually had any reasonable understanding of SCOTUS rulings in relation to Fed LE use of force policy , you wouldn't be whining about AshB. I'm happy to discuss SCOTUS/use of force. Where do you want to start ? I'm down. Let's hear the SCOTUS rulings on deadly force at the Capitol Building and the White House.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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