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Originally Posted by Starman
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..the 4th Amendment.


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


LMAO

Seriously. Are you a school teacher?


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by deflave

..the 4th Amendment.


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently


Correct.


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.

Severity of the crime at issue?: riot, property destruction, trespass. I don't know if those actions are felonies in D.C.

Was the suspect resisting or attempting to flee?: I would say she was actively attempting to gain entrance with malicious intentions

Was the suspect an immediate threat to officers or other citizens?: I think anyone with a brain could articulate the ramifications if that barrier was breached. They weren't smashing through it to shake hands.



Destruction of property is not a justification for deadly force for law enforcement.

“Malicious” means nothing. Explain why you think she was there to cause egregious bodily harm or death.

You tell me what that woman could have done if she gained access to that corridor. And explain how you knew she was a deadly threat.


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently. Was it justified? Possibly. ..


She chose to jump in the lions mouth
after repeatedly being told to get back
by LE.



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And please (this is directed to everybody) please stop insinuating that because a crime is a felony that it makes the use of deadly force more easily justified.

Because it makes you sound like a fugking idiot.


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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently. Was it justified? Possibly. ..


She chose to jump in the lions mouth
after repeatedly being told to get back
by LE.



So why didn’t all those feds in Portland shoot the rioters?


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.

Severity of the crime at issue?: riot, property destruction, trespass. I don't know if those actions are felonies in D.C.

Was the suspect resisting or attempting to flee?: I would say she was actively attempting to gain entrance with malicious intentions

Was the suspect an immediate threat to officers or other citizens?: I think anyone with a brain could articulate the ramifications if that barrier was breached. They weren't smashing through it to shake hands.



Destruction of property is not a justification for deadly force for law enforcement.

“Malicious” means nothing. Explain why you think she was there to cause egregious bodily harm or death.

You tell me what that woman could have done if she gained access to that corridor. And explain how you knew she was a deadly threat.




I appreciate the offer, but I don't have to explain s hit to you. Those qtards were there thinking they were going to "arrest" (ie kidnap) members of congress for some nutjob tribunal.

Do you think they were going to take pics and hold hands? Or were they there to do harm?

Face it, more than likely the contingentcy plan for the capital police/security was that door way was a red line. Nobody gets through it and deadly force is authorized to see to it. Same as jumping the fence at any military instalation.

F uck Qtards. She got what she wanted....to be a martyr.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently. Was it justified? Possibly. ..


She chose to jump in the lions mouth
after repeatedly being told to get back
by LE.



So why didn’t all those feds in Portland shoot the rioters?


I would guess because there weren't U.S. congressmen and women hiding in the basement in Portland, but I wasn't there.

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.

Severity of the crime at issue?: riot, property destruction, trespass. I don't know if those actions are felonies in D.C.

Was the suspect resisting or attempting to flee?: I would say she was actively attempting to gain entrance with malicious intentions

Was the suspect an immediate threat to officers or other citizens?: I think anyone with a brain could articulate the ramifications if that barrier was breached. They weren't smashing through it to shake hands.



Destruction of property is not a justification for deadly force for law enforcement.

“Malicious” means nothing. Explain why you think she was there to cause egregious bodily harm or death.

You tell me what that woman could have done if she gained access to that corridor. And explain how you knew she was a deadly threat.




I appreciate the offer, but I don't have to explain s hit to you. Those qtards were there thinking they were going to "arrest" (ie kidnap) members of congress for some nutjob tribunal.

Do you think they were going to take pics and hold hands? Or were they there to do harm?

Face it, more than likely the contingentcy plan for the capital police/security was that door way was a red line. Nobody gets through it and deadly force is authorized to see to it. Same as jumping the fence at any military instalation.

F uck Qtards. She got what she wanted....to be a martyr.


^^^Translation: I don’t actually know anything and I tap out now.^^^


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently. Was it justified? Possibly. ..


She chose to jump in the lions mouth
after repeatedly being told to get back
by LE.



So why didn’t all those feds in Portland shoot the rioters?


I would guess because there weren't U.S. congressmen and women hiding in the basement in Portland, but I wasn't there.


Cute guess.

Thanks for being stupid.


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Or you know they were just there apart of a tour group and got turned around. Poor lady.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.

Severity of the crime at issue?: riot, property destruction, trespass. I don't know if those actions are felonies in D.C.

Was the suspect resisting or attempting to flee?: I would say she was actively attempting to gain entrance with malicious intentions

Was the suspect an immediate threat to officers or other citizens?: I think anyone with a brain could articulate the ramifications if that barrier was breached. They weren't smashing through it to shake hands.



Destruction of property is not a justification for deadly force for law enforcement.

“Malicious” means nothing. Explain why you think she was there to cause egregious bodily harm or death.

You tell me what that woman could have done if she gained access to that corridor. And explain how you knew she was a deadly threat.




I appreciate the offer, but I don't have to explain s hit to you. Those qtards were there thinking they were going to "arrest" (ie kidnap) members of congress for some nutjob tribunal.

Do you think they were going to take pics and hold hands? Or were they there to do harm?

Face it, more than likely the contingentcy plan for the capital police/security was that door way was a red line. Nobody gets through it and deadly force is authorized to see to it. Same as jumping the fence at any military instalation.

F uck Qtards. She got what she wanted....to be a martyr.


^^^Translation: I don’t actually know anything and I tap out now.^^^


Drop some knowledge on me. What would you have? What was the correct course of action, oh great one?

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Or you know they were just there apart of a tour group and got turned around. Poor lady.


I love that people like yourself proclaim to “know”, and then abruptly admit to not knowing schit.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Or you know they were just there apart of a tour group and got turned around. Poor lady.


I love that people like yourself proclaim to “know”, and then abruptly admit to not knowing schit.



Again, please share the correct course of action. Educate us all. I need to learn from the best.

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.

Severity of the crime at issue?: riot, property destruction, trespass. I don't know if those actions are felonies in D.C.

Was the suspect resisting or attempting to flee?: I would say she was actively attempting to gain entrance with malicious intentions

Was the suspect an immediate threat to officers or other citizens?: I think anyone with a brain could articulate the ramifications if that barrier was breached. They weren't smashing through it to shake hands.



Destruction of property is not a justification for deadly force for law enforcement.

“Malicious” means nothing. Explain why you think she was there to cause egregious bodily harm or death.

You tell me what that woman could have done if she gained access to that corridor. And explain how you knew she was a deadly threat.




I appreciate the offer, but I don't have to explain s hit to you. Those qtards were there thinking they were going to "arrest" (ie kidnap) members of congress for some nutjob tribunal.

Do you think they were going to take pics and hold hands? Or were they there to do harm?

Face it, more than likely the contingentcy plan for the capital police/security was that door way was a red line. Nobody gets through it and deadly force is authorized to see to it. Same as jumping the fence at any military instalation.

F uck Qtards. She got what she wanted....to be a martyr.


^^^Translation: I don’t actually know anything and I tap out now.^^^


Drop some knowledge on me. What would you have? What was the correct course of action, oh great one?



Cant say. I wasn’t the shooter.


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Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by Starman
Folks keep singling out AshB as unarmed ,
Ignoring she was part of an armed mob.

If you had an armed mob breaking into
your property , would you give leniency
to anyone of them if they got too close
to your family or friends?..I suppose if
you can't see a weapon you must safely
assume the felon doesnt have one...LoL.

AFAIC, any adult who willfully choses to run
with such a mob in the act of felony is not
exempt from equal treatment, especially
when they are the individual leading the pack
through the window.



Another question would be, how would they know she was unarmed? Who is to say if she were armed, she would have put the gun somewhere on her person so she could crawl through the barricade? If the officer was told to shoot anyone who comes through that barricade, then he did absolutely nothing wrong. This has been investigated and it was not recommended to bring the officer up on charges which would lead one to believe that the officer was following orders.


You two are dumber than dogschit.


And yet smarter than the rest of you which begs the question "What is dumber than dumber than dogschit?"


LOL "dumber than dumber than" WTF you been drinking all day FhaggFMTenn?

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.

Severity of the crime at issue?: riot, property destruction, trespass. I don't know if those actions are felonies in D.C.

Was the suspect resisting or attempting to flee?: I would say she was actively attempting to gain entrance with malicious intentions

Was the suspect an immediate threat to officers or other citizens?: I think anyone with a brain could articulate the ramifications if that barrier was breached. They weren't smashing through it to shake hands.



Destruction of property is not a justification for deadly force for law enforcement.

“Malicious” means nothing. Explain why you think she was there to cause egregious bodily harm or death.

You tell me what that woman could have done if she gained access to that corridor. And explain how you knew she was a deadly threat.




I appreciate the offer, but I don't have to explain s hit to you. Those qtards were there thinking they were going to "arrest" (ie kidnap) members of congress for some nutjob tribunal.

Do you think they were going to take pics and hold hands? Or were they there to do harm?

Face it, more than likely the contingentcy plan for the capital police/security was that door way was a red line. Nobody gets through it and deadly force is authorized to see to it. Same as jumping the fence at any military instalation.

F uck Qtards. She got what she wanted....to be a martyr.


^^^Translation: I don’t actually know anything and I tap out now.^^^


Drop some knowledge on me. What would you have? What was the correct course of action, oh great one?



Cant say. I wasn’t the shooter.


So you don't know s hit?

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Or you know they were just there apart of a tour group and got turned around. Poor lady.


I love that people like yourself proclaim to “know”, and then abruptly admit to not knowing schit.



Again, please share the correct course of action. Educate us all.


Cant say.

I wasn’t the shooter.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Or you know they were just there apart of a tour group and got turned around. Poor lady.


I love that people like yourself proclaim to “know”, and then abruptly admit to not knowing schit.



Again, please share the correct course of action. Educate us all.


Cant say.

I wasn’t the shooter.


So you don't know s hit? Thanks for the information.

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy


So you don't know s hit?


Well I have a thorough grasp of the 4thAmendment (which you don’t) but I cannot claim to have the perspective of the shooter in question at the time the application of deadly force was applied.

But apparently you do.

So let’s hear it, dumb fugk.


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