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And it’s gonna get worse with the current “administration’s” brazen support for BLM and Antifa.
Watch your 6 out there brave officers !!! Imagine how bad it's going to get if he sends them out to confiscate lawfully owned firearms from honest, freedom loving citizens? The first couple months of '21 will pale in comparison...
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I'll take a tree as a variable over a human any day of the week.
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Farming is dangerous to, so is me felling trees with chainsaw and splitting firewood with a maul, but, no one wants to shoot me just for carrying hay to cows on a tractor. Yet!
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People will only realize what the police does for them when officers quit and they see that there might not be anyone when their home is burglarized or they are being threatened. Until that happens it will only get worse. Also this: If they start confiscating firearms, those numbers might increase...
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Our most recent LEO fatalities were 6 years ago, Two of my friends were killed 7 minutes apart by the same suspect same incident. It was a terrible day, I will never forget it. The bad guy was just not willing to give up and comply. He was later killed in a third and final exchange of gunfire. We have alot of support in our county, however the ground swell of the aniti police movement is ever present and growing. A bad trend that is supported by the Whitehouse. AKA Mr. Magoo and his handlers!
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People will only realize what the police does for them when officers quit and they see that there might not be anyone when their home is burglarized or they are being threatened. Until that happens it will only get worse. Also this: If they start confiscating firearms, those numbers might increase... That is true on two sides of the coin. Police and the legal system protect bad guys of all levels from street thugs to mayors and governors and see that their rights and safety are looked after. At least in theory, if someone is trying to rob and kill me in my home and I kill them first, without cops in the equation I could bury them in my garden just like I do a bunch of fish guts and that would be the end of it instead of me potentially being in the clutches of the legal system for years at the cost of probably more money than I have. In another alternative universe, let's say that word got out among the decent citizens of a place like Portland that ALL the Cops were gonna be having coffee and doughnuts during the next BLM/Antifa riot and the citizens were free to defend their homes and business from these animals as they saw fit. The ship would get righted in a hurry. So yeah, all these abolish the police types on the left haven't thought about what they are really asking for.
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law enforcement has managed to make everyone mad at them. The blm and antifa crowd for what they do, and millons of others for the support the cops give to government oppression over mask, social distancing. Many are upset with cops over the lack of zeal to stop riots, keep property from burning, and for not going after the rioters. The same cops that ask for your support are the ones playing toady for the local nazis.
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law enforcement has managed to make everyone mad at them. The blm and antifa crowd for what they do, and millons of others for the support the cops give to government oppression over mask, social distancing. Many are upset with cops over the lack of zeal to stop riots, keep property from burning, and for not going after the rioters. The same cops that ask for your support are the ones playing toady for the local nazis. Excellent points. ...and it’s only going to get worse when the Biden/McConnell Administration makes their move on firearms legislation.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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If they start confiscating firearms, those numbers might increase... Yup, just wait till they start Enforcing Biden’s Rule, ya’ll gunna come to the rescue of the LEO getting his ass kicked by a gun owning Patriot, or ya gunna side with the Patriot and the Constitution. ... That's not a hard choice to make.
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People need to stand up and defend LEOs when they are in trouble...
when I moved here in 1995, I took a shotgun and put myself in harms way to detract a perp who was trying to get the jump on two Oregon State Troopers, to shoot them..
If I hadn't been there, he would have....
I felt like it was the thing to do, but then again, I am a military vet and dependent...it was in my blood...
what bothered me tho, is both troopers came by my house a week later, to thank me.. and when they did, they told me that most people usually stand up to defend troopers when their lives are threatened.. I didn't feel like a hero, but it bothered me greatly that not much of the public would stand up to defend a Trooper or LEO when their lives are put in a threatened situation...
My father in law was a MN state Trooper for 33 years, it was much safer during his career than it is for LEOs in todays world... that is ridiculous...
A trooper would stand up to defend us, so why can't people return the favor???
sometimes, our society sucks.... My neighbor around the corner is a Deputy for the county. We text and chat now and then, mostly about deer hunting. We were talking about deer hunting in person one day when he got a call. I said good bye and to be careful, adding that I often watch for trouble when I drive by a traffic stop, saying that if I ever see him or another LEO in a wrestling match with someone, I intend to try to help the officer. He appreciated that. Seems simple to me that it's the right thing to do.
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Reminder, we all have bosses. LEO's have many, including elected government officials, which in those problem cities were run by democrats. In the cities where riots occurred, police where told (ordered) to stand down. Disobeying a direct order unless it is a unlawful order will get me and other LEO's fired. So.... that is how that dynamic plays out. Not to mention ACLU attorneys present at the demonstrations/ riots handing out business cards to any person that was touched by law enforcement offering to represent them in a civil rights suite for free. Again... how would the key board commandos handle that......? How many wrist rocket fired ball bearing strikes would the commandos take before they reacted or left the area looking for their participation trophies! ? I can only image what it must be like to be present to monitor those events and not being permitted to abate the problem. Critics abound, but few really know what their are actually running their suck about. A sad state of affairs.
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Shot by who? They generally shoot themselves and each other more than being shot otherwise. Not that blue backers actually care about them.
Being a cop is about as dangerous as they make it. If they keep going as they are it will get more dangerous. Maybe someday they will have to be as brave as those in more dangerous jobs; like garbage men.
And please don't expect them to have the fortitude of a logger. They'd run around swinging a chainsaw at everyone crying that they're scared of the trees. You're an idiot. Jim
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Shot by who? They generally shoot themselves and each other more than being shot otherwise. Not that blue backers actually care about them.
Being a cop is about as dangerous as they make it. If they keep going as they are it will get more dangerous. Maybe someday they will have to be as brave as those in more dangerous jobs; like garbage men.
And please don't expect them to have the fortitude of a logger. They'd run around swinging a chainsaw at everyone crying that they're scared of the trees. Spoken like a true clueless dumbass!
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Reminder, we all have bosses. LEO's have many, including elected government officials, which in those problem cities were run by democrats. In the cities where riots occurred, police where told (ordered) to stand down. Disobeying a direct order unless it is a unlawful order will get me and other LEO's fired. So.... that is how that dynamic plays out. Not to mention ACLU attorneys present at the demonstrations/ riots handing out business cards to any person that was touched by law enforcement offering to represent them in a civil rights suite for free. Again... how would the key board commandos handle that......? How many wrist rocket fired ball bearing strikes would the commandos take before they reacted or left the area looking for their participation trophies! ? I can only image what it must be like to be present to monitor those events and not being permitted to abate the problem. Critics abound, but few really know what their are actually running their suck about. A sad state of affairs. All of that is true. Plus, "the cops" are not homogeneous any more than any other group. Plenty of them are probably commie sympathizers. That is what makes revolutions complicated. Not everyone in colonial America was for the revolution, there were British loyalists. There were unionists in the South during the war of southern independence. Our time is much more complicated than theirs.
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Yeah but there were 10,000 unarmed innocent criminals shot this year.
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Already at #2, but whats the death rate for Heli-pilots that specifically operate in DMC zone logging or powerlines. Most LEO could not make the grade to be such a prof.pilot , but that's a blessing in disguise which they should be greatful for rather than complain about the dangers of being a cop. All the PD copter pilots here start out as street cops. I think they get their basic license and then train with experienced LEO pilots. Your statement is bold but I don't think it holds much water.
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You're not the only one carrying equipment Gunner500. Be Well, RZ.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill.
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As the job of law enforcement become less and less appealing due to the politics of today. Look for the bar to be lowered, those with minor criminal records, history of financial problems or emotional immaturity will be hired to fill the uniform.
If you think we have problems now, just wait. The good leo are leaving in droves.
Character cannot be taught at the academy.
They will vote our way into socialism, We will have to shoot our way out.
Every major horror in the world was perpetrated in the name of altruism.
Just how big is Aroostook County you ask?
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As the job of law enforcement become less and less appealing due to the politics of today. Look for the bar to be lowered, those with minor criminal records, history of financial problems or emotional immaturity will be hired to fill the uniform.
If you think we have problems now, just wait. The good leo are leaving in droves.
Character cannot be taught at the academy. Unfortunately, this appears to be a reasonable prediction.
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As the job of law enforcement become less and less appealing due to the politics of today. Look for the bar to be lowered, those with minor criminal records, history of financial problems or emotional immaturity will be hired to fill the uniform.
If you think we have problems now, just wait. The good leo are leaving in droves.
Character cannot be taught at the academy. Unfortunately, this appears to be a reasonable prediction. Its been happening the past 15 years. Most departments allow some criminal history and a lot of drug usage, very poor credit, lying under oath, failing entrance exams, firearms quals etc to up diversity quotas in agencies The State Police, it seems, are still maintaining their standards for now
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