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ya no offense meant, but i think the folks in west-bygod-va take the redneckin' thing to a whole new level. the appalachias in general. i would probably be considered citified down there. You’re confusing rednecks with hillbillies. Whole ‘nother thing, as are crackers. Lots of shared qualities, so some confusion is understandable. When Snowflakes get it wrong, they should be firmly corrected, just as they’d do to someone who mislabelled them as to their gender. Hell, there’s only 56 or so commonly recognized genders, so there’s no excuse for mistakes.
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Although the derogatory term was around earlier, it was the red bandana wearing miners in the 1921 Battle of Blair Mountain, in West Virginia, where up to 20,000 coal miners looking for the right to unionize clashed with coal company enforcers, and then with the National Guard that made the term less of a slight and more of badge of honor for folks growing up in Appalachia.
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Although the derogatory term was around earlier, it was the red bandana wearing miners in the 1921 Battle of Blair Mountain, in West Virginia, where up to 20,000 coal miners looking for the right to unionize clashed with coal company enforcers, and then with the National Guard that made the term less of a slight and more of badge of honor for folks growing up in Appalachia. Exactly...
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Interesting. My dictionary dates the term to the 1830s. Someone with a sunburned neck was obviously a working-class schlub.
Similarly, in China, and probably elsewhere in Asia, a dark or yellowish complexion marks the bearer as a “village” person, so likely a rube of sorts.
Wikidiky says the term was used in the late 19th century to describe poor, white farmers who supported the Democrats. Some in Mississippi actually wore red bandanas as early as 1910, so it appears the miners borrowed that device.
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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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now been culture cancelled? I'm still here...
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Of course not. Redneck is like cracker.
Those that don't know think it's a terrible insult to certain Whites.
Has always been meant that way too. Except, Rednecks DGAF what high minded pricks think. And have embraced it.
Ironic now. There are Wannabe Redneck. Just listen to Country Music. No, listen to the Wannabe Country music.
But, you knew all this. I wish I had a dollar for every time I was called a cracker.. not in the brotherly or endearing way.
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For a long time before the oil spill, our little slice of gulf coast had the nickname redneck riviera. Folks from across the southeast would converge here for a week or 2 every summer and blow it out, southern style. Wasn't much here then, just a few bars, fried seafood joints, sugar white sand, and spectacular fishing.
Every year, there was a pilgrimage of sorts on the 4th of July. Every other redneck in the state would converge on the coast for fireworks. They literally came out of the "woodworks". A real slice of Alabama, if you dare. It was awesome.
BP changed all that. Real rednecks don't fit in very well now. They aren't much on 2 hr. waits to eat farm raised fish from Asia. I don't get it either. Rich folks come here and want the same phuggin' fish they are used to eating at Red Lobster or Captain D's.
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i would rather work outdoors, hunt, fish, grow a garden, can vegetables, smoke meats, forage for mushrooms and ramps. and no i'm not a farmer and never have been. i don't see the term as a pejorative. maybe you do This. Redneck is a state of mind an attitude and life philosophy we embrace, along with women.
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Of course not. Redneck is like cracker.
Those that don't know think it's a terrible insult to certain Whites.
Has always been meant that way too. Except, Rednecks DGAF what high minded pricks think. And have embraced it.
Ironic now. There are Wannabe Redneck. Just listen to Country Music. No, listen to the Wannabe Country music.
But, you knew all this. I wish I had a dollar for every time I was called a cracker.. not in the brotherly or endearing way. DeFlave embraces that.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Around here we've dropped the Red, we just call each other Necks
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Of course not. Redneck is like cracker.
Those that don't know think it's a terrible insult to certain Whites.
Has always been meant that way too. Except, Rednecks DGAF what high minded pricks think. And have embraced it.
Ironic now. There are Wannabe Redneck. Just listen to Country Music. No, listen to the Wannabe Country music.
But, you knew all this. I wish I had a dollar for every time I was called a cracker.. not in the brotherly or endearing way. DeFlave embraces that. Doc, So do I. It's a term of endearment amongst Florida natives. But, most of the times I've been called that, it wasn't an endearing situation. Got suspended from the Marlin Owners forum for using it. I've long since tired of that place. I think the admins are KA commies.
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i would rather work outdoors, hunt, fish, grow a garden, can vegetables, smoke meats, forage for mushrooms and ramps. and no i'm not a farmer and never have been. i don't see the term as a pejorative. maybe you do The term came from hard working light skinned men and women who labored outside in the hot sunshine. From that, they got red necks and earned the title of the word. Truth.
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Redneck is a badge of honor and we DGAF what the jigaboo's and their lovers think.
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Although the derogatory term was around earlier, it was the red bandana wearing miners in the 1921 Battle of Blair Mountain, in West Virginia, where up to 20,000 coal miners looking for the right to unionize clashed with coal company enforcers, and then with the National Guard that made the term less of a slight and more of badge of honor for folks growing up in Appalachia. Appreciate the reference to the Battle of Blair Mountain. Was not aware of that factoid. My maternal grandfather, and my wife's maternal grandfather, were both coal miners within about 50 miles of Blair Mountain. Have never been ashamed to be called a "redneck". Have always considered it a compliment, especially when coming from certain high-browed individuals... I think there are other pejoratives that are considered "compliments" in other parts of the country as well. "RCA" comes to mind...
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As I sit here, with bacon sizzling on the stove, I look out my dining room window and I a wood shed with a bunch of antlers on the roof, a stack of tires, an old wheelbarrow, and a 1986 Dodge pickup on blocks. Out the living room window I can see five more trucks, three cars and a tractor. The dog is sleeping on the table on the deck. It occurs to me; I may be a redneck. GD
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As I sit here, with bacon sizzling on the stove, I look out my dining room window and I a wood shed with a bunch of antlers on the roof, a stack of tires, an old wheelbarrow, and a 1986 Dodge pickup on blocks. Out the living room window I can see five more trucks, three cars and a tractor. The dog is sleeping on the table on the deck. It occurs to me; I may be a redneck. GD Apprentice Redneck.
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