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1968: $1.60 adjusted for inflation $12.03
1981: $3.35 adjusted for inflation $9.64
1991: $5.15 adjusted for inflation $9.89
2009: $7.25 adjusted for inflation $8.84
Sounds like it's time for an adjustment!
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There should not be a minimum wage. You should get paid commensurate with the value you bring to the organization that employs you.
If you don’t like that, gain some skills and education then go work where you can and do create more value. Absolutely correct! I worked in managerial positions for several companies that had to hire women and minorities that couldn't perform the jobs' rigors to the point they were worse than worthless. Should this type of employee get paid anything, much less an inflated wage? All increases mandated by government does is move goal posts back through increased costs to everyone. Nothing is gained, nothing.
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), a champion of raising the minimum wage, said last week that a $15 wage is actually a “deep, deep compromise” for Democrats.
“Any person who thinks that a $15 minimum wage is the ‘crazy socialist agenda’ is living in a dystopian capitalist nightmare. And we should not prop that up. We should not continue that,” she said during an appearance on The Mehdi Hasan Show. It's an absolute shame an economics degree was wasted on that twat. I hope she paid in-full, out of pocket and that no one else had to be on the hook to piss away money on a lost cause. My kid works for Home Depot she’s a measure tech making what works out to $18 an hour. She’s pretty much her own boss sets her daily schedule. She was the only one to apply for it, they have no ties to any of the local stores. They work for corporate, her bosses all live in Washington and Oregon. Point I’m getting at their are plenty of jobs out their paying above the minimum wage. But nobody wants them, they want to sit at home collect free money from Uncle Sugar and the state they reside in. Now you know why I refer to most of the current generation as the Worthless Generation. Only a small percentage is worth a schitt as citizens. Most of their so-called "peers" are worthless as humans.
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The problem with a 15 dollar minimum wage is it invalidates the wages of the next rung up in the job market. Maybe not in higher income areas, but around here, there are college graduates who don't make 31,000 a year in salary. What about them? All of a sudden their college degree and salaried position earns them less than the kid who makes milk shakes at Dairy Queen? I would hazard a guess that the majority of today's college grads have a worthless degree with regards to learning a high paying skill.
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another issue here is
if you don't have enough money to pay rent, food, health care & education
America has a safety net that takes care of you
outside of kids living at home, everyone else making minimum wage, they are getting paid $15 an hour - the taxpayer is just making up the difference.
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Screw half measures...
I think minimum wage should be $100 per hour whether you actually work or don't.
We could take the money from military pensions, Senior Citizens, Education and do away with the armed forces completely.
America would be AMAZING...
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That and you can’t have a minimum wage and an open border flooding the country with an endless supply of dirt cheap labor.
High minimum wages and an open borders are two things absolutely working against each other and 100% non sustainable.
Democrats know this Their bad policies are bad for America EVERYTHING They do, is designed to destroy America
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The problem with a 15 dollar minimum wage is it invalidates the wages of the next rung up in the job market. Maybe not in higher income areas, but around here, there are college graduates who don't make 31,000 a year in salary. What about them? All of a sudden their college degree and salaried position earns them less than the kid who makes milk shakes at Dairy Queen? I would hazard a guess that the majority of today's college grads have a worthless degree with regards to learning a high paying skill. Not all of them are French Literature and Philosophy grads. My point is, in economically depressed areas, there are plenty of people working at what would be solidly middle class jobs who make jack squat compared to someone with the same job in a more economically strong region. 15 dollars an hour is more than what some of those middle class job holders in poor areas make. But they won't get it, the burger flippers and part-timers will.
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My lad has one employee at his restaurant, that makes right at $50K a year. Combination of hourly wage and tip out. None of his folks make less than $20 an hour total. Of course they work like dogs, are utterly reliable and love their jobs.
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keith dunlap says "Democrats know this
Their bad policies are bad for America
EVERYTHING They do, is designed to destroy America"
and he has nailed the bottom line fact with this issue.
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Dems are not totally stupid,they realize economics will balance out,but it will create an influx of tax revenue to fund their Santa projects.
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Democrats sure want to give away others peoples' (the employers that provide jobs) money. As stated above, get off your ass and improve your skills and get a higher paying job. I worked my ass off in a hot, sweaty cheese factory for my last 2-1/2 years of high school for $1.60 an hour, after school and 12 to 16 hours on weekends. I used that money and summer jobs earnings as a logger, a machinist helper, and a miner to pay for the university and earned a engineering degree.
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The problem with a 15 dollar minimum wage is it invalidates the wages of the next rung up in the job market. Maybe not in higher income areas, but around here, there are college graduates who don't make 31,000 a year in salary. What about them? All of a sudden their college degree and salaried position earns them less than the kid who makes milk shakes at Dairy Queen? I would hazard a guess that the majority of today's college grads have a worthless degree with regards to learning a high paying skill. Not all of them are French Literature and Philosophy grads. My point is, in economically depressed areas, there are plenty of people working at what would be solidly middle class jobs who make jack squat compared to someone with the same job in a more economically strong region. 15 dollars an hour is more than what some of those middle class job holders in poor areas make. But they won't get it, the burger flippers and part-timers will. There is that.
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Personally, I don't think the federal government has the constitutional authority to establish a minimum wage requirement. I think the market should determine wages based on one's contribution to the business and the value a worker places on his time.
That being said, I think liberals and conservatives have very different ideas about the role of government.
Conservatives generally do not think mininum wage jobs are intended to provide a "liveable" wage. They are entry level positions that allow the worker to develop basic employment skills so he can move on to higher paying positions. There are so many things wrong with the minimum wage requirement.
Remember businesses don't magically absorb increased costs. Consumers pay for them or the business goes out of business.
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I'm sure if we took the extra out of their pay to beef the minimum up to $15 per hour...we could make it, and they'd still have an ample income.
Phouc them all....
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I'm sure if we took the extra out of their pay to beef the minimum up to $15 per hour...we could make it, and they'd still have an ample income.
Phouc them all.... You have a good point.Pelosi make over $200,000 a year to stir up trouble...Not counting what all the others make a year.
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1968: $1.60 adjusted for inflation $12.03
1981: $3.35 adjusted for inflation $9.64
1991: $5.15 adjusted for inflation $9.89
2009: $7.25 adjusted for inflation $8.84
Sounds like it's time for an adjustment! .................No doubt goosefeathers, you as a libTURD, do not understand economics 101 nor the negative domino affects that raising the minimum wage would cause......
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The immigrants that are flooding in will provide plenty of cheap labor . And covid!
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1968: $1.60 adjusted for inflation $12.03
1981: $3.35 adjusted for inflation $9.64
1991: $5.15 adjusted for inflation $9.89
2009: $7.25 adjusted for inflation $8.84
Sounds like it's time for an adjustment! I have no problem with a $10 minimum wage, in exchange for elimination of Earned Income Credit, and Child Tax Credits. It is criminal redistribution of wealth when a person who has paid in less than $2000 in withholding, or perhaps even $0 gets a refund of $10,000 or more. The law should require a maximum Federal tax refund be no more than the tax paid in during the year.
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