24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
A
Campfire Regular
OP Online Content
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
I checked a local shop today that has six pounds of Accurate 2015 powder. Checking data shows it may possibly be a good 35 Whelen powder with 200 gr. bullets.

Has anyone used it for this purpose or in any other cartridge that you feel it excels in?

GB1

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,831
Likes: 4
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,831
Likes: 4
I burn a lot of it... I'm sitting on 25 lbs or it or so...

223, 22.250, 243 with varmint bullets, 6.5 Grendal, and now 17 Fireball....


"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC

“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734
I like it a lot in 30-30, 223 with 50-55 bullets, 308 with 125gr bullets, it's good stuff, don't do anything like yer trying to do though.
It close to IMR3031 burn rate wise, but measures like a dream compared to 3031.


I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 401
P
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
P
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 401
45/70, 444, and 22/250.

It’s done very well in those three for me. I always try to have a couple pounds of it on hand.

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,831
Likes: 4
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,831
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by doubleDs55
I like it a lot in 30-30, 223 with 50-55 bullets, 308 with 125gr bullets, it's good stuff, don't do anything like yer trying to do though.
It close to IMR3031 burn rate wise, but measures like a dream compared to 3031.


with a case mouth as wide for 35 caliber bullets, is 3031 really an issue? just sayin'

check out this site... at the top of almost each bullet weight, the first powder it starts out with is AA 2015 load data... 35 Whelen...

http://stevespages.com/358_2_180.html


"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC

“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

IC B2

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
A
Campfire Regular
OP Online Content
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
I've been checking my loading manuals and this powder seems to have a broad range of uses. It may work out well for 200 gr. loads in the Whelen.

Went back to the shop that I was in a couple of weeks ago. They still had 5 pounds at $32.00 per. Started to buy a pound to test it in the Whelen then thought, with my luck it works great and I would go back to find it all sold. I bought all of it figuring with calibers from .223 to 45-70 there will be something that it works well in.

Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 567
8
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
8
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 567
Ive never used it in a Whelen, but I have shot some in my 223rem combination gun with 55gr and 60gr bullets. Both loadings shot very accurate for me.

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 488
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 488
I’ve used 2015 in my .35 Remingtons with 150-grain bullets. It gives highest velocities in the little .35, not sure in the big .35 but of course it will work.

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
A
Campfire Regular
OP Online Content
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
DR,
I've found loads in manuals for the Whelen that are giving data with top or near top velocities with A2015, hopefully with accuracy as well.

84Mtn,
If Whelen loads don't work out, I've got .223 and 45-70 in mind as backup alternatives. I might even consider the 45-70 option to be better. My load for it with 405 gr. Remingtons uses H335 which is accurate as hell but the fireball at low light resembles the muzzle blast of the USS Missouri's big guns.

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,110
Likes: 11
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,110
Likes: 11
Originally Posted by Seafire
I burn a lot of it... I'm sitting on 25 lbs or it or so...

223, 22.250, 243 with varmint bullets, 6.5 Grendal, and now 17 Fireball....



I just bought 2 pounds of it at a local gunshow, and another one made by accurate. Some weird benchrest powder (LT32). I'm also interested to see what people are using this AA2015 for.. In the load data I have for my new 6x45 AA 2015 is listed, so that's probably where I'll try it first.. That and 223 rem with lighter bullets.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
IC B3

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,831
Likes: 4
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,831
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by 84Mtn_EER
Ive never used it in a Whelen, but I have shot some in my 223rem combination gun with 55gr and 60gr bullets. Both loadings shot very accurate for me.


Hey welcome 84! I live in Oregon, but family roots are also in SE West Va.. I was born in Bluefield... Grandparents and my folks were raised in Monroe County,
Grandma's side was from Raleigh County....family also in Greenbriar and Summers County....

I'm descended from Meadows and Lilly stock....which have been there as the first White folks to settle there... in what was Lillydale , before they flooded it with a reservoir around 1950....

if you are familiar with the Lilly family reunion held each year at Flat Top, I'm part of those folks....

Welcome and enjoy the campfire....its a fun place.. I've been here since 2004


"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC

“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,659
B
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,659
Originally Posted by aboltfan
I've been checking my loading manuals and this powder seems to have a broad range of uses.


A slight problem with this powder is that some of the loading manuals are off a bit.
The reason is because Accurate 2015 has been manufactured in three different countries Israel,the Czech Republic, and now in Canada.
The newer powder made in Canada is a slightly slower burn rate than the other two and most of the load manuals were developed with the older powders.

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,659
B
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,659
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter



I just bought 2 pounds of it at a local gunshow, and another one made by accurate. Some weird benchrest powder (LT32). I'm also interested to see what people are using this AA2015 for.. In the load data I have for my new 6x45 AA 2015 is listed, so that's probably where I'll try it first.. That and 223 rem with lighter bullets.


The "weird benchrest powder (LT32)" was developed to compete directly with VihtaVuori N133.
It was meant to replicate the original T32 powder that has not been manufactured in many years.
The man behind helping Accurate develop this powder was Lou Murdica hence the L.

If you look at Hodgdons new burn rate chart published Nov2019 they were completely clueless where most of the Accurate powders fit in, now that they own Accurate it will be interesting to see how long it takes to publish a chart that is closer to correct

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,110
Likes: 11
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,110
Likes: 11
Originally Posted by boatanchor
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter



I just bought 2 pounds of it at a local gunshow, and another one made by accurate. Some weird benchrest powder (LT32). I'm also interested to see what people are using this AA2015 for.. In the load data I have for my new 6x45 AA 2015 is listed, so that's probably where I'll try it first.. That and 223 rem with lighter bullets.


The "weird benchrest powder (LT32)" was developed to compete directly with VihtaVuori N133.
It was meant to replicate the original T32 powder that has not been manufactured in many years.
The man behind helping Accurate develop this powder was Lou Murdica hence the L.

If you look at Hodgdons new burn rate chart published Nov2019 they were completely clueless where most of the Accurate powders fit in, now that they own Accurate it will be interesting to see how long it takes to publish a chart that is closer to correct


Thanks boat anchor. The bottle says it was developed for the 6PPC, but also works well in 223 rem. I probably won't use any of it until I run across some good reliable load data. Just need to do a little bit of research. Until then, I have a lot more powders I can burn. I just figured since it was there for a good price, I should buy it.. You know how gunshows can be sometimes.. Also, it was one of my buddies that was selling it. So I trust that it was an unopened bottle of powder. Sometimes I get a little leery about buying powder at a gunshow. He often has a few tables set up at these local shows.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,667
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,667
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by boatanchor
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter



I just bought 2 pounds of it at a local gunshow, and another one made by accurate. Some weird benchrest powder (LT32). I'm also interested to see what people are using this AA2015 for.. In the load data I have for my new 6x45 AA 2015 is listed, so that's probably where I'll try it first.. That and 223 rem with lighter bullets.


The "weird benchrest powder (LT32)" was developed to compete directly with VihtaVuori N133.
It was meant to replicate the original T32 powder that has not been manufactured in many years.
The man behind helping Accurate develop this powder was Lou Murdica hence the L.

If you look at Hodgdons new burn rate chart published Nov2019 they were completely clueless where most of the Accurate powders fit in, now that they own Accurate it will be interesting to see how long it takes to publish a chart that is closer to correct


Thanks boat anchor. The bottle says it was developed for the 6PPC, but also works well in 223 rem. I probably won't use any of it until I run across some good reliable load data. Just need to do a little bit of research. Until then, I have a lot more powders I can burn. I just figured since it was there for a good price, I should buy it.. You know how gunshows can be sometimes.. Also, it was one of my buddies that was selling it. So I trust that it was an unopened bottle of powder. Sometimes I get a little leery about buying powder at a gunshow. He often has a few tables set up at these local shows.


Yes LT32 was developed for the 6ppc using 65-75 grain bullets. It’s been out for about 10 years now. Works very well in the 223. LT30 which was designed for the 30BR, LT32 and 2015 are made in Canada on the same machine, hence they can be blended to give different burn profiles. 30 and 32 mixed 50/50 gives LT31 which since 30 is faster than 32 gives a burn rate just about in the middle of those 2. 2015 being slower than 32 being blended 50/50 was a very fine performer in 223 up to 62 grain bullets.
Plenty of reliable load data on all of those here.
http://www.ramshot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/WesternPowdersHandloadingGuide8.0_WEB.pdf



Swifty
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,110
Likes: 11
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,110
Likes: 11
Thats good info Swifty. Thanks for posting it. Found a good use for that LT32 powder and some 77 smk I just bought..and the new 6x45..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,863
Likes: 4
M
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
M
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,863
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by doubleDs55
I like it a lot in 30-30, 223 with 50-55 bullets, 308 with 125gr bullets, it's good stuff, don't do anything like yer trying to do though.
It close to IMR3031 burn rate wise, but measures like a dream compared to 3031.


with a case mouth as wide for 35 caliber bullets, is 3031 really an issue? just sayin'

check out this site... at the top of almost each bullet weight, the first powder it starts out with is AA 2015 load data... 35 Whelen...

http://stevespages.com/358_2_180.html


I bet he meant how it works through a powder measure, not a case neck.

Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,400
3
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
3
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,400
AA2015 is a sleepr in 358 Winchester with 200s & 225s. Less bulky than W748, measures easier than 3031, burns clean, gives top speeds with good accuracy in the 2 rifles I've tried it; an old Ruger 77R & a Shilen barreled M70.


Sacred cows make good burgers when you know what temperature to cook them at.-Rev. Billy
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,116
Likes: 1
D
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
D
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,116
Likes: 1
I have used a lot of it, and like it. If I were low on powder, I would not hesitate to buy more of it. Right now, I have more modern powders that I like a little better, such as TAC for the 223/5.56.


Be not weary in well doing.
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
A
Campfire Regular
OP Online Content
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 1
I don't know if A2015 is going to be any better or even as good as the RL15 I normally use. The shop had a nice supply of it at a decent price and after coming home and looking in to it I said to myself, just buy it. It'll work for something I use.

I believe it will be a decent powder for 200 gr. bullets. The Nosler #8 gives a velocity of 2769 fps and Western's #8 gives 2798 fps using 200 gr. Hornady's, both with max. loads. For heavier bullets, RL15 and Varget will be better powders in the Whelen.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

546 members (16penny, 338rcm, 1minute, 06hunter59, 01Foreman400, 222Sako, 62 invisible), 2,370 guests, and 1,270 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,544
Posts18,491,571
Members73,972
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.234s Queries: 55 (0.010s) Memory: 0.9112 MB (Peak: 1.0305 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-05 18:01:20 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS