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start t3 and t4 , which are components of thyroid, get separately , biological half life is different for both,
start Testosterone cream 200 mg daily --- standard dose
2000 mg fish oil 3-4 times a day
D3 at least 5000 units daily
melatonin, 5 mg at nite
L Tryptophan 250-500 ( when you see L or D in front of drug or food supplement it refers to the optical enantiomer= short version on the L forms are biologically active)
TTumeric 1000mg 2 times a day. increase blood flow by helping with nitric oxide.


this is a good start, and will help regardless of current medications taking (will not interfere) or previous pathologies

look up compounding pharmacy in your area and they will line you up with a Bioidentical Hormone Replacement doc.

Don't take synthetic thyroids. Armour thyroid is the only one to take.

Too much T3 in pig thyroid for some folks, im a prime example.

This is incorrect.

Armor and others of this type are desiccated products from pigs, that are extracted with malt solutions.

They have incredible problems standardizing the doses, (check on the FDA recalls if you don't believe me). manufactures assays are off all the time.

also the ration of T4 to T3 is for pigs , are you a pig? the dose of which is in micro milligrams not milligrams,

T3 or/and T4 can be combined in any ratio that is tailored for that person, then encapsulated using micro cellulose. (pharmaceutical grade.) to very accurate assays.

This statement is also inaccurate.

T4or levothyroxine is not active and is converted by the cells on site to T3 (liothyronine ) and rT3, rT3 is not active and competes with the site along with regular and active T3. This conversion process has a bio-logical half life of 6-7 days.

T3 has a 1/2 life of 4-6 hours and allows the person to tailor the dose to their rhythm

pig has a ratio of 20/80 T3, T4 of which only 1/2 the T4 is active.


Ever wonder how many people fall "asleep" at the stop light , caught in that mindless gaze--- zoned out Low T3

It was previously thought that T4 was needed because it crossed the blood brain barrier, and was converted there, but it has been shown (NCBI) that T3 is present in spinal fluid .


So as an example a dose in the morning, and say one about 2 o'clock when your cortisol level go to hell

So you came around finally?????

Thanks Etoh, but i have heard Melatonin should be taken several hours before bedtime to start its affect by bedtime.

No, its not. You stated desiccated thyroid has a 4/1 ratio ...correct. Whats a humans ratio? 14/1. Shot my free t3 and rt3 through the roof. t4 bottomed out. Again, some folks can handle it, I couldnt.

Recently (1 to 2 years ago) I had to take Prednisone for a condition called temporal arteritis. Symptoms were severe ongoing headaches, could barely open my mouth to get a spoonful of food in. At first I though the problem was an infected tooth. When I finally went to my doctor she diagnosed me in about 3 or 4 minutes even though I now understand the condition is not common. Under the worst conditions, if untreated, I understand it can lead to blindness.

The doctor prescribed prednisone and within hours the headaches disappeared and I could open my mouth to eat again. I was on a prednisone treatment for several months and then gradually tapered off. Not pleasant to take but it surely worked for me.

What scared the hell out of me was the thought of maybe going blind if it hadn't been caught. I had a phone call from a specialist
doctor in a major Toronto hospital yesterday who informed my I am now considered cured and it would no longer necessary for me to drive into the city every 3 to 4 months for checkups.

In my case I am truly thankful for it.

Jim

Can be taken then, but some folks will be put to sleep before they get to bed.

Its inaccurate to extinct is doesn't differentiate that the ratio is established by the extraction process and not in vitro real time pig or human value.

human ratio has no standard, different in each person

I did have to deal with two worlds, the academic and government, neither one cared what the other calls stuff, but if your participation requires one to use the correct jargon.

Vitamine D in and of itself is not a hormone, but it is converted in the body to calcitriol which is referred to as a steroid hormone...which regulates calcium and phosphorus is the body.

Which makes it a prohormone. Call it whatever the fug ya want, ill continue to call it a hormone.

And if one has severe liver or kidney problems you can call it what you want, but it won't be turned into the active hormone metabolite.....It will just sit there as Vitamin D...

Correct

Sorry when I say Vit D its D3

As it is a cholesterol based chemical there over 100 metabolites, and only a few have been studied in some depth. To what extent and amount is open to conjecture.

the cholesterol/steriod pathways are not closed. and the steroids can be rerouted to that pathway and vice versa.

It has it's uses. You should see how it clears up a bad case of poison ivy!
Dr told me it's like using a firehose to put out a match.

As noted above, depends on the person. My wife HATES prednisone. Keeps her awake, jittery, puts on excessive weight QUICKLY. OTOH, I love prednisone. Sleep like a baby and after 3 or 4 days, get up feeling like Super Man. Positive Mental Attitude out thru the roof. I will clean out a refrigerator in less than a day. But stay active enough when I am on it to burn off the calories.

Daughter is an FNP. She has older patients who crave prednisone like a junkie craves meth or crack.