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Who cares what people ask for their stuff ? If you dont like it, move on. Capitalism , much better than socialism. Sometimes I think some people would think it was better if the government had control on private sales ??

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Remember when two guys in KY bought all the toilet paper in their area and then tried to sell it on Amazon for high prices. Amazon shut them down. Maybe if there were gun sites that had scruples they would shut down these scalpers too. Then maybe the ammo/reloading components would be more readily available and at decent prices.

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The same place that everyone selling something gets them.


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I cannot believe folks are asking for centralized control of markets.

Move to Venezuela or Cuba if you want to live in such a system.

Free markets are great...but not necessarily if you are asleep at the switch.

But that is your problem. Don't throw away capitalism so you can sleep.


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When this comes up as a question of character, I ask this question?

What is the worst character trait: Is it worse to have supplies you're sitting on, when there is a shortage, and to sit on them and not sell/share them, or is it worse to sell them for what people are willing to pay, and help satisfy that need.

I have no problem with someone coming forward and offering their stuff for less than someone else is offering (gouging) for. But to criticize the price without offering a lesser priced alternative is not appropriate. Sometimes the lack of items just drives the price. The ones that have the problem with the price offering to satisfy the market demand at a lower price would automatically fix the price gouging. Complaining about how someone else should sell their stuff for less does nothing to fix the problem, except make for hard feelings all the way around.

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I had 59 eld 6.5s I put on GunBroker with a .01 starting bid.
Sold for $63 shipped

What exactly would have been the correct way to get rid of them?

Sell them for $25 nad let the next guy sell them for $60?


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Originally Posted by ringworm
I had 59 eld 6.5s I put on GunBroker with a .01 starting bid.
Sold for $63 shipped

What exactly would have been the correct way to get rid of them?

Sell them for $25 nad let the next guy sell them for $60?


So after shipping and fees how much did you make?

OTOH places like Midway have people who want to go to work every day and keep their jobs. If Midway has nothing to sell then they don't need these people so maybe that's one way of being able to keep help. Make a little extra for a rainy day. Not saying it's right, but just a possible reason for increasing prices.


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Originally Posted by kenster99
Who cares what people ask for their stuff ? If you dont like it, move on. Capitalism , much better than socialism. Sometimes I think some people would think it was better if the government had control on private sales ??


+1

Apparently some people only like capitalism when prices are coming down. Don't like the price; Don't buy it! Pretty simple.

If you think you can do it better, start up a manufacturing company and make your fortune. No one is stopping you.


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Sour grapes is how I explain people who cry about current prices, they simply got caught with their pants down. Anyone who has been around the block would recognize the potential for massive prices spikes/demand after an election cycle. Only a moron can't grasp the concept of supply and demand.


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I also don't care to pay exorbitant prices induced by fluctuating supply /demand relationships, so I stock up when things are available and hope I have enough.
As far as any "virtues" that might be realized through a planned economy, people need to realize that massive price hikes on high demand goods and services are a part of ANY economic system. Talk to people who've lived in socialistic countries, people who've been in jail or prison, or people who've bought anything that can't be legally sold. Even in centrally planned economies where everything is "fairly distributed", wherever a need exists, there will be a market to serve it, and the prices in this market will always be a derivation of demand and scarcity.

There are times of need and I understand that making a deal often includes the realization of things other than monetary compensation; everything in life is a value judgement on what is gained vs what is lost. I recently sold a scope to friend's son who is 16, works several jobs, and pays for things with his own money. I gave him a great deal on the scope because it was my way of thanking those who did the same for me when I was in the same shoes. The feeling I got from helping him was worth more to me than the much higher price I would've received selling it on-line. Likewise with acts of charity. However, I don't expect someone to sell me something for less than going rate because I didn't stock up, or so that I might be able to sell it elsewhere for more.

I hope all those who are deriding making a profit on an open market, non-compulsory sale call their retirement fund and money mangers to let them know not manage their funds with an eye towards making the most off the transactions. Shows a real lack of character if you don't abide by you're own espoused values.

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Love how it’s always the ones crying about prices are not the ones offering their supplies for “bought” prices. These same broke complainers won’t even buy a few extra boxes when supply is plenty.

Rather complain about how unfair something is....

I do love watching snowflakes melt so, carry on!

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I hope everyone remembers those scalpers who are taking advantage of the left wing siege, to fleece their fellow shooters. And later when things get back to normal, they never ever do business with those people again.


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An item is only worth what someone will pay for it. Scruples and morals and ethics vary from person to person. I agree if you don't like someone's prices bypass them and go on. This gives you something to talk about to your hunting buddies or gun buddies for example... Can you believe what this person is asking for ... or I can't believe this dumb SOB gave $$$ for this....There is also the side to of prepping -vs- panic buying. Prepping is say you have a 30-06 and you live to deer hunt (or any other caliber that you go to the range and shoot) when ammo is plentiful buy an extra box or 2 once or twice a month when you have the disposable funds and your cache or stockpile grows significantly in no time. That's the definition of prepping. Panic buying is what we all have become victims of currently in this pandemic, election year whatever you want to call it and that's when there is an "ammo shortage". The people that give these high prices are the ones that didn't think ahead to use their disposable funds to prepare for times like these. The gougers are the ones waiting in line at the main stream sporting goods stores that have prepped for themselves but also see an opportunity to take advantage of the ones that didn't think ahead to prep for times like these. All that being said the people that weren't prepared for these current times should be looked at from the same point of view as the ones who were prepared and are taking advantage of the system. Granted if you find yourself in either boat the view sucks to the onlookers and the people caught in the needy boat. I agree with many people in this post but if you aren't prepared for any situation then you have no one to blame but yourself. The logical approach is to be prepared for times like these and the problem of gouging takes care of themselves but there will ALWYAS be people that don't prepare and the nay-sayers that just blow off the situation saying "it will never happen". The way the government will EVER control guns is not by banning guns but by controlling the flow of ammo.

Just my 2 cents and remember the boy scouts motto "Be prepared" and this will take care of itself.

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I have sold a few items on GB recently, mostly bullets. I just start them at a penny and let the market figure it out. That way if there is any scalping going on, the buyer is scalping himself and my conscience is clear.


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Can’t wait for the deals that come around a year from now when all these boys who horded supplies begin unloading stuff for half what they paid for it. Then I’ll jump back in as a buyer.

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thats the best way to handle it jnyork.....like I said something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it

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At a recent gun show the dealer was selling 22 LR ammo for $100/box. My cousin said he saw a dealer selling 22 WMR ammo for $100 a box and the buyer wanted all he had.


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Originally Posted by kenster99
Who cares what people ask for their stuff ? If you dont like it, move on. Capitalism , much better than socialism. Sometimes I think some people would think it was better if the government had control on private sales ??

NO! It would be handy if the price was required in the title so we could move on without having to open and scroll through the thread.

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