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I found some .338 Barnes 175 gr. X bullets. I want to load them up for my .338 Federal. I cannot find any published load data for X bullets.
I called Barnes and they told me they never developed any loads for the 175 gr. X bullet in the 338 Federal. They did give me some info to start load development.
Has anyone one here used the 175 gr. X bullet in the 338 Federal? Any accurate loads or recommendations?
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Cool. I’d probably look at 180 AB data and then look at 185 TTSX and 160 TTSX. Kind of see what makes sense. What’s the bearing surface of an X compared to a TTSX? As for powders, I’d say AA2230/x-terminator, H322, H335, 8208XBR, and TAC would all be viable.
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I have 160’s I’m going to load for a 338 Federal if Shilen ever ships my barrel to ctw.
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Have not used those but the original X will run at higher pressures than the grooved TSX & TTSX's. I found in other cartridges I could load to within a grain or so of the max for conventional bullets, but I have no idea what the actual pressures were. Just looking at the data for other bullets I would load up to about 2,700 or less and stop there.
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Have not used those but the original X will run at higher pressures than the grooved TSX & TTSX's. I found in other cartridges I could load to within a grain or so of the max for conventional bullets, . I had similar issues when I loaded X bullets for my 300 Wby. That is why I'm being cautious.
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PRM that is what Barns told me to do. Start with the TTSX starting loads.
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I have 160’s I’m going to load for a 338 Federal if Shilen ever ships my barrel to ctw. My Kimber groups the 160s better than any other bullet. I killed a few deer with them and they went right down. All passed completely through.
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PRM that is what Barns told me to do. Start with the TTSX starting loads. I forgot to add, be careful with Barnes 338 Fed load data. It’s pretty stout. I often end up a grain below their indicated max, and that’s consistent across 5 different barrels.
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XBullets may or may not be accurate in your rifle. Molycoating them improve accuracy.
Compare 308/180gr loads? Use their starting loads?
No grooves, may leave copper in barrel and pressures may be higher than TSX/TTSX loads.
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I have had good luck using other data for jacketed bullets. Starting load to start and work up.
Last edited by Tom_in_VT; 03/23/21.
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Tom that's what I intend to do. Start low and work up. Hopefully I'll find an accurate load at a decent velocity.
This particular rifle, a Kimber Montana, likes lighter bullets and I gotten the best groups with the Barnes 160's. The Barnes 160's were scarce for awhile but just recently I was able to buy one box so I should be good with them and the 175's.
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I have 160’s I’m going to load for a 338 Federal if Shilen ever ships my barrel to ctw. My Kimber groups the 160s better than any other bullet. I killed a few deer with them and they went right down. All passed completely through. They do real well in a Sako 338 Win mag too.
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PRM that is what Barns told me to do. Start with the TTSX starting loads. I forgot to add, be careful with Barnes 338 Fed load data. It’s pretty stout. I often end up a grain below their indicated max, and that’s consistent across 5 different barrels. That's some good information. Thanks.
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Both the 160 and the 185 TTSX shoot very well in my Sako 85. The 160 knocks the heck out of VA whitetails. I harvested a + or - 150 pound buck that had bedded about 150 yards away. The bullet went through the neck re entered the chest and ended up at the rear ham after penetrating hide 3 times.
They seem to almost drill holes through em. The 160 is quite traumatic.
Good luck and shoot straight y'all .
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