Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire In your opinion, is there a final straw that pushes us to a hot civil war?

I assume that this ^ pronouncement is based on your personal opinion of what level of government-imposed servitude your like minded American citizens would tolerate.

I found 2 dissenting opinions - separated by significant time and political ideological differences - both interesting and probably more indicative of the values of American Patriots:

“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry Second Virginia Convention, St. John's Church Richmond, Virginia Mar. 23, 1775

"I say to you, this morning, that if you have never found something so dear and precious to you that you will die for it, then you aren't fit to live," Martin Luther King Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church Nov. 1967

It seems some on the 24HCF have walked further down The Road to Serfdom than I had imagined.

If the 2022 elections are as crooked as was the case in 2020, that may do it. In the meantime, it seems that the Left is trying to provoke the Right into doing something sooner. This would be a big mistake and would assure that 2022 would solidify the Left's grip on power.

If stealing a Presidential election in broad daylight won’t set one off then what will?

They’re raping us , our kids , and their kids and we’re hypothesizing on what will make us mad enough to fight back .

Seriously?

The only thing that is getting raped here is the truth.

Well lets see what the voice of experience says:


What would things been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

What would things been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

If I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible what was the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: 'Men had forgotten God; that is why all this has happened.'
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

The strength or weakness of a society depends more on the level of its spiritual life than on its level of industrialization. Neither a market economy nor even general abundance constitutes the crowning achievement of human life. If a nation's spiritual energies have been exhausted, it will not be saved from collapse by the most perfect government structure or by any industrial development. A tree with a rotten core cannot stand.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Evil people always support each other; that is their chief strength.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

We didn't love freedom enough.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
believed every lie
The generation now coming out of Western schools is unable to distinguish good from bad. Even those words are unacceptable. This results in impaired thinking ability.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (Wow....that sums up the USA today very well. Jail yourself. Wear a mask. Quit your job. Live in fear of something that doesn't even exist in the form you are told it does. Accept an "election" that was not an election at all. Say nothing that offends evil and stupid people. Live in fear of them, and PAY YOUR TAXES you serf)

To coexist with communism on the same planet is impossible. Either it will spread, cancer-like, to destroy mankind, or else mankind will have to rid itself of communism (and even then face lengthy treatment for secondary tumors). Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn {cowards will simply say "I can't" and wrap themselves in that lie as if it's some kind of defense, caring nothing for the children they leave to the horrid future they allowed for them. God's judgement will be harsh for such cowards}

I have read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn too.He was a bit long winded and boring. You can quote from him all you want but what he said does not make it so here.
There are a lot of ignorant and gullible people here on this forum who for the past 4 years believed every lie trump told. This is the problem we are having. 80
million people something other that reality.

If so What is it?

Stophel,

Because you’re such a jackass that you can’t understand the point I made and why I specifically chose those 2 quotes, makes you a fool, but my point still stands.

Each individual needs to decide whether he values any of his beliefs sufficiently to stand up for them. OTW, like your idiotic rant, it’s all talk. Talk is cheap.