If so What is it?

Civil war is a pipe dream that will never happen

Unconstitutional Gun Control will be a hot issue.

You come for some good ol' boy's guns... You'll get 'em. A few grains at a time.

trying to take people's guns.

The passage of the next leftard scum gun bill.

I think this is the case. I think the puppet-masters managing the left are deft enough in their manipulation to keep us moving left without ever quite pushing the button until we've already received 999 of the 1000 cuts rendering us unable to resist or overthrow them. The only thing that could possibly thwart their plans is if one of their puppets gets overly ambitious and tries to push too fast.



So far as that, I don't think they have to. I think without ammo, those guns are not very ergonomic clubs. Sure isn't much ammo. The longer we wait, while some of us are out there plinking away our stash, the less ammo we're going to have to fight that war with if it ever comes. Outlaw guns, only outlaws have guns ... and with time, since they can't practice with them, the outlaws' skills fade, the old generation dies of old age, the new generation never got to train, so "they" win by attrition. All it requires is patience on their part.

Tom

Civil war is not my dream. Half of Americans dying in the streets, while China walks in to THE super power status is
A loose loose for us.

Clearly we are never going to be what we once were. We will be dragged down to Venezuela standards.

Taking away the Tax exempt status of Churches because they do not marry gays is NOT going to be popular

Keep thinking there's no ammo...

Historically over the past 100 years, if not led by military juntas, it happens only when a large group (thousands) of civilians in one area are literally starving or without electricity/clean water/heating fuel, and they have access to firearms. Either guns they own, or take from local law enforcement/military personnel.

Isolated pockets get put down, but if the problems persist on a widespread basis, SHTF. Soldiers begin deserting when they are ordered to open fire on starving women, elderly, and children, and things for the government get shaky. If military top brass decides that their own butts are on the line by resisting the uprising, it's over for the government.

We're probably a long way from there, but who knows? With the Neo-Marxists in charge and pushing as far as they can, maybe not.

Leaked body cam footage not intended to see the light of day.

Didn't the civil war begin because a coalition of states decided to secede from the union? That was an organized effort and they created their own military. It is very possible a coalition of states might decide to exercise their state's rights and not enforce federal law. In fact that has already begun with sanctuary cities refusing to enforce immigration laws and states legalizing marijuana and other drugs. The state's might even block federal officers from coming into the states to enforce federal law. Didn't Montana do something similar to this regarding firearms manufactured and sold in the state. The real test will come when the federal government cuts off funding. Wait, the courts have decided they can't do that to sanctuary cities, right?

The feds will pick off everyone, one by one. Like shooting the turkeys in the back of the line...

So nope, unless assifa and blm start marching, but they will have military escorts.

TOM
That has been my position . They will remove guns incrementally, practically ( ammo availability, taxes, regulations) and attrition.

"They" were smart enough to pull of an election steal. I don't expect them to be dumb enough to create a rallying point with any one push or law, but I've been fooled before.

Wait until they ban the Bible for being hate speech to gays.

They already have a hissy fit is someone wants to start a Bible study club.

Not being able to somehow secure water, food, shelter. No electricity for an extended period MIGHT do it.

Pro-gun groups will be marginalized into "Kook" status IE Waco-esque treatment from the media if they try a "mass uprising". It won't matter how fundamentally/constitutionally correct they are, it'll only matter what the press has to say about them.

Shut down the internet.

An all out war...no.

Guns will be the hot button issue, but it will take the shape of a guerrilla war.

Civil Disobedience and non-compliance to gun registration and confiscation need to come first.

And they will.

The most obvious would be a financial collapse brought on by the rest of the World “waking up” and ridding themselves of the American Dollar as the “gold standard” of currencies. (We’re $30 trillion in debt, and we don’t produce/manufacture squat, that China/Germany/Russia/India couldn’t, as well)

If the middle class has no jobs/savings/investments to worry about, all bets are off. Otherwise, who knows??

If our side won't get out and vote for, or contribute money to, people who defend our beliefs, how the Hell do you think they will fight?

Wait! If Sportsball is cancelled, then that could be a different story.

We did vote for those who would defend our beliefs.

Didn't do much good when the election was stolen...and will be again.

With the recent sales of solvent traps rising, it will at least be a quieter civil war.

Q will jump in and save us all,just wait and hold your breath .He is teaming up with Captain Marvel.

I see America becoming a much less desirable place to live over the next 30 years, or so. People with the means to do so will be leaving the country,..especially Caucasians.

In 30 years the transition to Socialism will be complete. Anyone with any sense won't want to live here.

I don't think the form of government will be the deciding factor. America's government is hostile to white people,...plain and simple. Caucasian Americans are going to start wanting to live somewhere where they don't feel threatened.

That’s how I see it too.

The government isn’t going to go in blind door to door looking for guns. They’re going to get 100% mandatory nics checks. The information is already stored and available if the government wants it bad enough. Once nics checks are mandatory for all firearms the government will have de facto registration and can then selectively target anyone that does not comply with future bans.

We watched the attempted stealing of our presidential election in 2016 and the successful stealing in 2020 and did nothing it’s tough for me to imagine that we will do anything in the future.

I think it should have happened a long time ago. It hasn't. And it won't. People will just continue to go with the flow. The gooberment will have to deal with a few stragglers, but there will be no major large scale resistance.

Not until people are hungry ( truly hungry...not the"hunger in America" crowd that lines up their $40K SUVs at the food banks) and they start seeing their brethren who speak out disappear....

I just don't believe enough Americans could be organized and goaded into fighting

IF the powers that be need/wants something to be stopped it can be.
When things get rough enough people don't want that for themselves and the resistance outside of a few individuals impatiently stops the capital breach is a prime example.

If there were somewhere else to go you might be right but I don't see anywhere that is better. The places that seem ok are still pretty bad and getting worse just as we are .. maybe faster. There is nowhere to retreat to. ... is there?

Tom

That's right.

When my family has nothing to lose by my death.

Just like the guys in Calif and other states with draconian gun laws did eh?

It seems to me that many Eastern European countries are improving as America declines. The globalists are in the process of turning the U.S.A. into a large version of Brazil.

I am not going anywhere, nor will I follow their direction or tolerate their intrusion. Perhaps I will not live to be old. That is fine. Neither will some of them.

Our generation won't see the worst of the transition. People in their mid 20s today will have it bad enough that they will start looking to get away from America in 15 years or so. In fact, I think the wisest of that generation will configure their educations in a manner that will allow them to live elsewhere.

I don’t know where anyone would want to go. There’s groids, dune coons and marxists in practically every nook and cranny of the globe.

Nope too much love for material things and comfort .
75% of society doesn't know what a day of hard work is , something like Roughneck work on a Drilling Rig .

ChipsNdips , honey hand me another pepsi , man this Barca Lounger is comfy - love my new 90'' big screen tv - NFL god I love it

Shhh!!!!
That is exactly what the left wants...
Have you noticed all the countries where the people have no real power are already rioting?

They're going to want to go someplace where white people aren't portrayed as being evil.

But you miss the point, if we don't make a stand your material things and comfort are gone. Seems you don't see the big picture.

So your death is all your worried about? Try hard and see what the leftard long game is and tell me they will have anything to do when that happens.

Exactly the biggest reason to unseat those who corrupted our election.

It is our country! We have to fight for it. I want to live nowhere else.

I don’t disagree with anything you said and I feel the same way.

What degree would allow one the portability to do as you describe? I do believe one would be way AHEAD of the game if they were to “configure their education” in a way that gives them the flexibility to pull up stakes and move without worrying about forfeiting their careers or suffering a significant reduction in their standard of living.

The trades are a great way for young people to establish themselves in a career but I don’t know that other countries pay their tradesmen as well as they’re paid here.

If the past year has taught me anything it’s that the majority of Americans are extremely gullible and will do whatever it takes to fit in and to get along.

The majority of the people with Molon Labe and don’t tread on me stickers on their trucks will be the first one to call you crazy for bucking the system and the control, just so their neighbors will think they aren’t that guy.

I have zero confidence people that wear mask daily are going to do anything but say “he should have just followed the law”...

As long as the Government (Democrats) throw them a bone every now and then , people will look away and allow it to happen

Unfortunately, they're already working on us from about every angle possible all at once. Short answer is, if they were stupid enough to go for total gun confiscation all at once here in the beginning, that would do it. Longer answer, instead, it seems like they're going for a merger of big business and government hand and hand. They've been weeding out the mom & pop businesses through covid, and thus they have to control a much smaller number of businesses. They work together for their mutual best interest, like no competition and share in the wealth. The the government doesn't have to make laws about things they want because big business just refuses to do business with you, and you have no other alternatives.

There's the ESJ (edited to say.. "ESG") score coming, in fact, I hear it's already happening, and if your score isn't high enough at some point in the future, oh say because you post negative things about the government, aren't environmentally friendly enough, own too many guns, etc,... well, maybe you won't have a bank account or credit card or Paypal anymore, and maybe you'll get laid off from your job and branded as an outcast. Also maybe you'll get kicked off of Facebook, Twitter, or any other way that you communicate, including shutting down forums like these, or conservative "hate talk" radio. I think all of my conservative friends and I have had oodles of our posts blocked or flagged, and been either suspended or banned on social network sites for daring to disagree with Covid or the elections, etc. Just look what they did to Parler. Deutsche bank has vowed to never do business with Donald Trump again. And if gun shops, firearms manufacturers, and ammunition makers are shut down thru new regulations or no bank accounts..

Meanwhile, the propaganda wing of the demoncrat party- the mainstream media- has been working on marginalizing conservatives and Trump voters into "kook" status by hammering on the "insurrection" for a couple months. Big players in Hollywood, congress, and the media have been making suggestions about taking names for reeducation. Oh, and they are already working on dropping the dollar from being the world standard currency- the John Kerry statement at the World Economic Conference. Anyway, these are just a few of the fronts they're working on to either intimidate us into silence/ inaction, or to pick us off one at a time in other ways.

The same as anywhere else,..STEM,....with the ability to read and write Cyrillic and speak the Slavic language of their choice.

When the food and power runs out but not until.

Good responses. I have a question. In some ways civil war looks imminent. With that in mind what should we be doing right now now to be better prepared if it does happen?

Rick300 ,

Howdy .
I don't miss the point you're reading this wrong , I'm saying I think the vast majority of folks won't do anything because they've worked and made their lives very comfy . That's fine - I'm comfy myself but we can't let this Country incrementally slip into banana republic status .
I can't think of anyone I could depend on if I was being railroaded by the Govt.

As long as we sit on our butts and let the deep-state do what they're doing the worse it's going to get .

A case of many of us not seeing the forest for the trees?

Our country was founded and built by the refuse of other countries.

The strong, smart refuse that scratched their way out of a bad situation,
Got across an ocean, and scratched out a life. Raising their kids,
In a slightly better situation, but still to be strong. Physically, mentally,
and morally. That continued until post WWII. Those kids were raised
in a much better/easier world. And had it much better than their parents.
With a burning desire to make life easier still for their kids. It continues.


Rome died of suicide.
Life was too easy, entertainment and relaxation were the focus
of life. Not being industrious or increasing strength.

Today, we are told to forget industry.
Look at how we are taxed to build the amphitheatre for our
gladiators to compete in. Look at our focus on leisure pursuits.


I'm afraid the Americans of past are gone. We have built defeat
into our success.

40 years ago the things that have transpired in the last few years couldn't have
happened. Imagine an armed force taking over 6 blocks of a major
city in 1970. Over running a police station, putting up a fence and
declaring it their own country.

The WWII generation was still running things,
And they would have run right the F' over those punks.
And there wouldn't have been another riot. Anywhere.

I'm afraid there won't be a strong group stand up to fight the good fight.
There won't be a fight, until it's a fight of desperation.

This. Truth is "they" are way out numbered. A city of 500,000 may have 500 cops, or sheriff's officers, and some of them are jailers or support. I think with a little guerrilla warfare they would discover quickly they don't like that game. Same with the Armed forces. Maybe 100,000 actual fighting troops. They are way outnumbered as well. It wouldn't be pretty and no one wants it to come to that. It's the arseholes that pass the bills who need to be shot. But they will stay in their safe buildings. This is not something anyone wants, or wants to see, but it is something they are going to push on us.

Organizing is BIG!

Things go to crap the FIRST thing cops will do is hide their uniform and likely get the hell out of dodge .
Same with military members --> there's WAY MORE of us than there are of them .

Easiest solution without a civil war? Its very simple......anyone who turns away from the principles this country was founded on could have a bounty placed on them. Wouldnt take long for our "leaders" to straighten up. However, i would never condone violence!😬

80 million people are a lot more than the ruling class. Piss them off one more time real good.

What will start things faster than anything else is to have the govt start shooting and killing our own citizens.

There's a couple of recent events that prove 2 things..

1) Our govt cares much more and favors foreign illegal aliens much more than legitimate citizens.

2) "Labels" are being added to those who don't agree with the socialism/communism. (In order to kill people, you have to label them Nazi, White Supremacist, Terrorist, etc. ... then it's okay to kill them. Our govt and media will say so.)

Revolutions happen when things are improving for most everyone, but not fast enough for anyone.

Civil wars happen when the improvement isn't broad based and leaves a bunch behind, that's kind of why the South got cranky. The Northeast was moving fast into the industrial age, gaining population, et cetera, while the South stayed agrarian/commodity and whatever growth you'd get was based on pricing, plus maybe some productivity increases, but nothing of the sort you get when something truly new hits the market.

That's kind of happening now, and it's happening in demographics that used to be the most content, the most trusting, those most willing to stick with the rules they were taught. We are, too quickly, shifting to an objectively-oligarchic model. Our politics now are purely about money, and we have a news media so desperate for money they will never bite the last hands still feeding them. It's disgusting to me, the billions secretly laundered and washed, yet the mighty "press" can't be bothered to investigate who PAID for all those high-dollar Big Lies.

On the bright side, back in 2009, I ran the numbers on the 22LR part of Obamapanic 1. Something like two billion rounds were bought up in the six months after the election. If you break down who would be buying those rounds, out of the self-identified conservative/independent/liberal blocks, which was like 35/45/20, guess that half of independents stocked up while liberals felt all warm and fuzzy....conservatives bought 32 rounds for every liberal in America. Just in 22 long rifle. And ammo demand plus consumption has been strong all that time since.

I think there's going to come a time when a critical mass of "ordinary Americans" will be facing losing it all, these will be proud people who have done what was expected of them, are decent, moral, honest, and yes, patriots. A lot of them were at the "insurrection" and were not violent, didn't lose themselves in the moment. The way they've been treated and too often mischaracterized is not something they'll forget -- and the more Americans who have that experience, the closer we get to critical mass.

It’s something that guys who hack off to Road House dream of but it won’t happen. The just want to talk about it on the internet.

When conservatives realize that their votes no longer count, and stop believing that we can fix the nation's problems in the next election.

If you live through the initial phase you will need food , water and a way to defend it. I would start there. Basic medical supplies after that.

Trades are highly valued and paid accordingly in Northern Europe.

A lot of those who were there and not violent were still labeled as "terrorists" and are being rounded up as we speak.

A large population of people who once had means to provide food, shelter, water, and sanitation for themselves and families. Now finding it all gone, and a clear path to who caused their hardship, and for a political purpose.

This would touch off a massive rebellion that would turn into a revolution.

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Wont see large scale North v. South type conflict in your lifetime.

I agree. These needs can be had in a crude fashion too. Helping others of like minded people seems a good idea too. The modern business world calls that networking. In fact the power outage in Texas recently is a good example. Having knowledge of how to treat most any water so it's safe to drink is important. Food can be tougher though. Most of us here already know how to use our firearms for defense, although some extra insight and training would be very good too.

Nope. Then they'll just cry louder for the gooberment to save them

I tend to agree with that. I believe a large part of our population could have a herd of hogs across the road from them and still starve to death.

It takes a certain type of people for an armed rebellion. "We" aren't that people anymore. By (((design))). We have had that character....and pretty much all good character... worked out of us over the past hundred years or so, through movies, television, pop music, pop "culture", etc.

"We" are no longer even a people. "We" are SO disparate, SO different, SO divided... if "we" ever rebelled, "we" would not be able to agree upon what we were fighting for, nor would "we" be able to decide (or even discern) just who "we" were fighting against. Again, all by (((design))).

That's becoming more evident every day and it's going to get worse for American Caucasians. That's why I said that white Americans with the ability to do so will start leaving America.

The prospect of being a part of a country that has maintained a cohesive culture,..that isn't ruled over by a huge, imperial government, will start to seem very attractive to many people.

It does to me. But I'm too old to start over at that level.

I told my kids 15 years ago that they needed to start considering leaving this country. They looked at me like I was crazy. I'm not sure what they think about it today.

It could be that they're more acclimated to an America that is as it is today.

I'm not. I knew it when it was still much closer to its original intent than it is today,..and I've got enough years and perspective to realize how fast it's declining.

Most people that talk about elsewhere being better have not been anywhere.


mike r

People are already forgetting what it was like before masks and lockdowns. They won't remember what it was like 20 or 40 years ago.

Won't be much difference if the degrading and dilution keeps up at the rate it's at now.

I know that white Europeans aren't beating down the door to come to America, these days.

There's truth in that.

Millennials don't even know what freedom is.

America is certainly not what it was or should be and getting worse - whats the alternative?

Former Combloc Eastern European country? I'll grant you Caucasian populous, but what else am I getting to warrant the move?

...Honest question

I don't think they're allowed in now anyway.... only "people of color" can walk right through that door.

A totalitarian government can run for a long time before the people are starving in the streets. Hitlers Germany was booming economically going into WWII. A dictator can use the Constitution for TP and decide which rights he’ll give you while the economy still rolls along. Iraq’s economy I believe was good by Middle Eastern standards under Hussein. China avoids mass starvation and a growing middle class under communist control. East Germany trailed West Germany by a wide margin but they weren’t starving to death. A totalitarian government could strip us of our God given rights and freedoms and go for decades without complete economic collapse of the middle and working classes while always blaming the boogeyman for the whoas of the commoners and most sheeple will go right along with it.

There's an entire adult generation in America that doesn't know what it was like 40 years ago.

And the ones who will be the most shaped and brainwashed by mask are kids to young to vote right now. We have a whole generation of kids in elementary school that have spent a year wearing mandated mask that having lived through it as kids are going to see it as normal and something that government can and will do. Just as they’re growing up seeing TV shows with state sanctioned gay marriages and being told that gender is something that you choose. You tell somebody that enough from birth to adulthood. In the schools, MSM, government, and TV. Most kids are going to grow up and take it at face value and not think it’s weird.

Each generation gets worse and worse... BUT.. it's because their parents let them. Their parents are little better. They have gone along with the agenda themselves the whole time, conforming themselves to the accepted pop-culture standard.

Absolutely. Very few parents are actively involved in what there kids are learning or put the time in to teaching there family values over the government/school systems. Single mothers that are short on time and just want there kids to be liked and get along but without any real core beliefs tend to be worse.

Up until WWII most people still lived rule lifestyles. Both of my grandparents lived on family farms and were pulled from school after 8th grade to work the farms. That was common up until that time. After WWII both of them took high paying manufacturing jobs in towns and moved in to subdivision and it’s been mostly that way since. The first generation to grow up raised mostly with a K-12 education more leisure time, and mostly suburban lifestyles grew up to be the hippie generation and it’s only gotten worse.

The company I work for hired several toolmakers from Serbia in the late 90s. All but 2 have gone back . And they most likely will within the next couple of years . Too many old memories being rekindled is what one of them told me .

This is a fücking statement right here.

Someone should poll suburban women about whether they'd rather be ravaged by Putin or Biden.

When your door is breached at 2:am, you will get the chance to decide. What will you do?

Well,....it might be. But I suspect that they went back home after learning that American toolmakers are all azzholes.

You do know that healthy political discourse require adversarial content...that strident vigour is what makes for strong result and national backbone.


Pander and placate gets you Chamberlain and Co.

If the English had listened to Chamberlin they might still be an empire,...instead of a refugee camp for wogs.

Depends.

No Knock - First couple through the door will likely die.

Knock and Announce - First couple through the door will likely die.

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England's time was done as it had already stagnated, being a wog refuge is just a symptom of their degradation.


Also pretty sure the Nazi jackboot would have made for a lousy overlord.

There is no country to run to. The USA is the best. But as it slips into communism the fight will start. We are very close now because they are trying to take America from us.

They've already taken America from me. I have no home and land of my own. I am surrounded by people and cultures (such as they are) that are entirely foreign to me.

Oh c'mon . toolmakers are sweet and gentle souls ! And we all smell like flowers . You know .

Starvation. Your children dying of it even after you have eaten your dogs.

I could be wrong....To me Civil war seems like it needs to be between the People and a Governing body, I don't see that happening, however I could see an invading force bringing war to this Continent.
I think its more likely a war between People ...People vrs People, and I dont think that fits the definition of Civil war.

I would like a honest answer to that......bob

The English people didn't choose to be a wog refugee camp any more than Americans chose to absorb the lower caste of Mexico.

It was decided for them.

Germany was targeted also,...many years ago. They bucked the decision. The British stepped in and the end result was a Soviet empire and an England that had to go to war to hold the Falkland Islands.

A herd of sheep on the Falkland Islands is what's left of an empire that the sun never set on.

Actually, people vs people is the very definition of a civil war. Two or more factions fighting for control of the region/government.

I didn't know that, thanks.

Tracy, thats the problem. No one can wrap their brain around that in America because NONE of us has ever been without.

Our "poor" are fat and carrying $800 phones.

If you've ever traveled abroad and seen real poverty it leaves an impression...but you won't find it in America. We have a loooong way to go down to the drain, but it has started.

IMHO, if it happens at all, it will be started by the other side. Likely due to the government not moving fast enough towards Communism. It appears that they want to take our freedom more than we want to keep it.

Ignorant and gullible people.

Dont shoot at the plate whatever the distance or wpn you are using.
As much as it is ingrained to shoot center mass.
Aim at the belly and pelvic girdle...
1/3rd bottom center mass...

One down hit miserably will sucker the would be rescuers in soonervor later.


Just let em scream till they come to rescue who the fugg ever.
Then shoot those fugga,s too.

They need some horror and fear in their minds to set in.


Take as many as you can with ya if ya know you aint gonna make another sunset or sunrise.


Always have a retrograde plan to GTFO and see another day.


Fine line of timing and situations on both above.
Mostly on what is on the side to be gained by you or for others.

Fugg it...
If your 70 75 80 yrs old when schit hits the fan in the future.

You have probably already had a pretty good run at life.
Go out with greatness in some peoples minds if ya can....

A buddy of mine is high up in a major corporation. He has a co-worker who was born in India.

This man tells of how in the very early 70s, his father ran into their modest home in Lahore screaming to his wife, "Sell Everything! Sell Everything! We are moving to America!"

"But why dear?", replied his mother.

"I just saw a Soviet propaganda film showing how Americans are racist and mistreat black people!" shouted the father.

"And so?", asked the mother.

"Woman!", yelled the father, "In America, even the poor people are fat!"

Reegade, your training and experience shows. You are telling part Fabius, the Roman Consul General who delayed Hannibal, Sun Tzu, and FM 7-8.

Your last statement was echoed by Socrates.

Nope. Too many people are too fat and happy. And when they started offering rewards for turning people in, it would be over.

I wonder if I could go to Alaska and sneak across into Siberia.... I just want to live quietly in the woods, not surrounded by savages from all over the world. Hey, it's been done before!

https://www.abroadintheyard.com/rus...ontact-for-42-years-siberian-wilderness/

If your door gets kicked in at 2:am you will be so massively outnumbered by well trained men in full body armor with automatic weapons and snipers and armored vehicles outside your door that it will be game over you lost.

It’s crazy how fast the world can change. Who would have thought in the 80’s that by 2020 it would be the conservatives talking about moving to Russia to get away from globalist in the USA

Iceland seems nice.

Not enough trees there for me.

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Maybe economics. When the last few taxpayers get fed up with paying for all the free loaders.

Packing the SC with progressive fascist fanatics so the Dems can ignore the constitution.

Passing HR1 to federalize our elections in violation of the constitution and the SC not overturning it.

Banning assault rifles.

It would be just like the Revolutionary war.

A total pipedream, I'm afraid.

I guess you don`t figure on the other side shooting back. Your whole post is stupid.

Okay pajama boy, settle down...

If Popeye’s runs out of those little chicken sammiches again I’d say we’re gettin’ close.

I never knew that was how I portrayed myself all these 40 years. I'll got ask my wife if she thinks I am.

The war has already been fought. Congratulate the liberals.

No, it hasn't.

Political landscapes change with the wind, mainly because voters are abysmally stupid and without conviction that goes beyond themselves.

Very accurate statement.

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Piglosi loves her fence and wants it to become permanent. You can smell their fear.

When 80 million people showed up to vote for DJT, they were more than overwhelmed. They stupidly shut down the election count at 3am to digitally walk in enough illegitimate ballots to overturn the election results. Everyone knows this happened. Everyone opposed to this corruption is ready to take back America.

We've been fed rhetoric that it is the military's obligation to protect the constitution when Congress and the Judicial branch of the Government fail to restore the will of the American populous.

Thus far, Bidet and the Ho have not been allowed anywhere near the Whitehouse, access to Airforce 1, nor control of any branch of the military, other than the National Guard, stationed not at their hideout, but the fence surrounding the Capital.

Makes one wonder, how much protection Bidet and the Ho actually have?

Seems to me, a civil war could occur and be over within minutes if armed insurrectionist were to successfully storm (the hideout).

What’s this ESJ score

It depends on how many want to live free....

Or die.

They will slowly take away everything. FDR said that socialism must be gradual.

Ive been working every day and like most of us, have had a lot on our plate.

Sure, we've been worked at by "all angles".
That Sir Isaac Newton sure had it pegged about right.....

Hey honeyhole, Have you ever done ANYTHING great?

May the odds be in your favor.

....makes you wonder if insurrection isnt the goal , that way Joe can invite his chinese mercenary's over to help keep the peace ?
get Vlad to invade from the east , Chinks enter via Califas and Joe is The Man in the High Castle.

Got a letter wrong. I fixed it. It's the "ESG" score. New way to measure your Environmental, Social, and Governance impact.

Tha super majority of people would not or could not muster regardless of how egregious the insult.

Quite literally 90%+ would do nothing if their spouse was murdered in front of them... and their children taken away in chains.

People value Comfort/non-confrontation... of Courage 20 to 1.

Personally, I have accepted this life is only a chapter in God's book... when I made it to 30.

That was 28 years ago.

Double bonus "still being alive"... is super cool.

They are making more ammo now than they ever have before and it's not on the shelves because it's in gun rooms all across America.

Wanna bet?

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Final straw would have been not getting my free money....crisis averted..

The vast majority of people are too comfortable and too accustomed to accepting insult to actually push back. Case in point - the government told half the population they couldn't earn a living to support their families and they just accepted it - even embraced it - for a disease with a 99+ percent survival rate.

I am settled. How do you know I am wearing PJ`s. Are you spying on me through my camera system?

There are worse things than a revolution and dying. It would be living under the jack booted thugs you guys hire right after you get total control.
Modern day brown shirts are what some of you are.

Well lets see what the voice of experience says:


What would things been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

What would things been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

If I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible what was the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: 'Men had forgotten God; that is why all this has happened.'
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

The strength or weakness of a society depends more on the level of its spiritual life than on its level of industrialization. Neither a market economy nor even general abundance constitutes the crowning achievement of human life. If a nation's spiritual energies have been exhausted, it will not be saved from collapse by the most perfect government structure or by any industrial development. A tree with a rotten core cannot stand.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Evil people always support each other; that is their chief strength.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

We didn't love freedom enough.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

The generation now coming out of Western schools is unable to distinguish good from bad. Even those words are unacceptable. This results in impaired thinking ability.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (Wow....that sums up the USA today very well. Jail yourself. Wear a mask. Quit your job. Live in fear of something that doesn't even exist in the form you are told it does. Accept an "election" that was not an election at all. Say nothing that offends evil and stupid people. Live in fear of them, and PAY YOUR TAXES you serf)

To coexist with communism on the same planet is impossible. Either it will spread, cancer-like, to destroy mankind, or else mankind will have to rid itself of communism (and even then face lengthy treatment for secondary tumors). Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn {cowards will simply say "I can't" and wrap themselves in that lie as if it's some kind of defense, caring nothing for the children they leave to the horrid future they allowed for them. God's judgement will be harsh for such cowards}

Surprising on here how many have already surrendered. I think it has always been that way.

If stealing a Presidential election in broad daylight won’t set one off then what will?

They’re raping us , our kids , and their kids and we’re hypothesizing on what will make us mad enough to fight back .

Seriously?

They told us the regular cold and flu was a pandemic and destroyed lives as a result. They told us it was the new normal . And we are asking what will make us mad enough to fight back?

Good point. Biden is going to let us know if we have his approval to celebrate Independence Day this year. Gov of MI wouldn't allow her subjects to visit their second home if they had one or to buy garden seeds or certain other things on her approval list.

What are the conditions that cause a rebellion?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/03/what_are_the_conditions_that_cause_a_rebellion.html


Quien Sabe,


GWB

That - nationwide...

I don't think there will be one. Demographics, the domination of information channels, and the allure of government benefits favor urban leftists, and the lack of organization, unity, and willpower on the right means that the right will continue to fade into impotence and irrelevance. Just like what happened in the rest of western civilization.

If there was going to be a civil war, it should have been 30 years ago.

yup.

If the 2022 elections are as crooked as was the case in 2020, that may do it. In the meantime, it seems that the Left is trying to provoke the Right into doing something sooner. This would be a big mistake and would assure that 2022 would solidify the Left's grip on power.

I assume that this ^ pronouncement is based on your personal opinion of what level of government-imposed servitude your like minded American citizens would tolerate.

I found 2 dissenting opinions - separated by significant time and political ideological differences - both interesting and probably more indicative of the values of American Patriots:

“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry Second Virginia Convention, St. John's Church Richmond, Virginia Mar. 23, 1775

"I say to you, this morning, that if you have never found something so dear and precious to you that you will die for it, then you aren't fit to live," Martin Luther King Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church Nov. 1967

It seems some on the 24HCF have walked further down The Road to Serfdom than I had imagined.

I don't think there will be a fight at all. The bloodless conquer of the American Conservative, the destruction of our way of life, our freedoms, the documents that founded this nation and kept it steady enough for these many years, that victory will overshadow many of the greatest strategic victories of the past. No one will ever again even think of asking why the Jews didn't fight back against the Nazis of WWII, that a heavily armed population of "freedom loving, die hard individualists" never even lifted a finger against the overthrow of a once great nation will far overshadow that. We will be studied in the history books much as "The 300". Only in absolute reverse... The French will mock us...

You're living in a fantasy world.

And to quote Martin Loofa Kang alongside Patrick Henry is a disgrace.


There will be a few more Ruby Ridge and Waco type episodes. There may even be a Marvin Heemeyer or two, But on the whole, the people in America will sheepishly accept ANYTHING that the people on TV tell them. The character for rebellion simply is not there. It exists in the hearts of a few of us, scattered about here and there, but too few and far between.

All they have to do is wait about 20 years and 90 percent of us will all be dead, or to old to put up much of a fight. Then it's over for the good old USA.

I run a LGS in a blue state. I get a lot of one time customers who like to either complain about the onerous regulations which the state has visited upon them, OR complain about the elected jackasses in charge (federal or state level).

My reply is to simply ask 2 questions:

(1) Did you do anything to push back against the initiative process when Bloomberg and friends were frightening people with school shootings?

(2) Did you vote in the primary and gubernatorial elections in this state?

Most responses are a simple dumb stare and a mumbled reply about "I always vote."

With that kind of GAF attitude about the democratic process by shooters, no one really cares until AFTER their rights are infringed upon/ removed.

Remember, my audience does not consist of leftist vermin and Marxist idealists.

So, what is the average shooter doing to influence politics? Not a effing thing!

To answer the OP- when/ if the people get fed up, not until then.

heheheh.... Yeah, that pretty well sums it up right there, boys, "don't you rape my wife again, or you're gonna get it for sure!"
Jesus H Christ....

The only thing that is getting raped here is the truth.

If you were in a summertime outhouse in MS with Old Coot , you’d know it. You phugging gweerrr . You’d need twice as much toilet paper for at least twenty .

I have read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn too.He was a bit long winded and boring. You can quote from him all you want but what he said does not make it so here.
There are a lot of ignorant and gullible people here on this forum who for the past 4 years believed every lie trump told. This is the problem we are having. 80
million people beleiving something other that reality.

A chick with a digk could assassinate you .LMAO

Stophel,

Because you’re such a jackass that you can’t understand the point I made and why I specifically chose those 2 quotes, makes you a fool, but my point still stands.

Each individual needs to decide whether he values any of his beliefs sufficiently to stand up for them. OTW, like your idiotic rant, it’s all talk. Talk is cheap.

When you cant move about freely and are hungry...............it will at that time be very hot.

Wars don't "start" overnight. IMO, it's already happening.
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But I get your question...what's gonna be our Pearl Harbor?

That I don't know.

This time if left alone the democrats will bankrupt America and the start selling it off to the highest bidder. They sold most of it to china. People will fight when given no other choice. Now 75 to 80% of the people have no choice and do not count. Only the illegals count. They are our replacements.

There is no future without people answering for crimes of the past. People who committed the crimes need to be prosecuted and removed.

I used no foul language with you, nor made any personal attacks beyond saying you lived in a fantasy world if you thought that a large number of Americans would actually stand up for the ideals of "Liberty or death!". I would have been happy to apologize if I had misunderstood your point, and you had politely explained it to me. But not now, dipschidt.

That fugktard funnybone thinks it's him.

Nobody really got mad about a fake election, so it's kinda hard to visualize anything that would make them go to war.

Nah, we're not there. We're already about 350 miles down that road to the left.

we were there in november, too many were too stupid to realize it

You mean like out right theft of a presidential election?

Longwinded and boring?

You are a consummate fool.

Where's the gotdamn tracking number you promised? Til you post that, you can stfu.

I guess the 2022 election will be telling

That could be right around the corner

I’m not sure either, but I’m pretty sure that we are going to wait longer than we should! In fact, I think we already have waited too long!

I have to agree !

Thats the beauty of the internet over FTF conversations. You can still type while sucking each other off. Win/win for you two fhags.

You seem angry .. Ask your wife if this is normal behavior ..You did seek her opinion last time you tried to screw somebody..

When govt policy is so bad that the citizens have nothing left and nothing to lose. They will fight back.

It already happened and we were to scared to do anything about it. Biden Openly stole the election and nothing happened. That is undermining our rate to choose a leader and that's the peak for me.

either that or simply accept the enslavement.

Talk is cheap and I do understand your point.Now it is time to throw some insults back at you and the rest of your ignorant, gullible stupid dolt posse of cowards
pussy traitors. So why don`t you and your kind go line up to suck the dick of EX president Trump while he kisses the golden Idol of himself that was at CPAC or Corrupt Pussy
Ahole Cock Suckers.

I here Trump is expect you.

For those who say it isn't time - where is that line?? How much more abuse must We, The People endure from a PedoBiden dictatorship before we exercise the ultimate check on FedGov??