Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A though on the religious threads

When you tell people that, if they don't believe your specific ancient story/mythology (out of several thousand different religions currently "believed" to be true by their followers), despite no objective proof that said ancient story is true, they are going to eternal hell, well, some people don't take it nicely.

And when those people quote their own ancient story/book as their evidence of said story/book being true, well, again, you're gonna get a few eye rolls.

It is impossible to have a logical discussion about something that requires faith to believe.

While not impossible, it's very difficult to have a civil discussion about something that requires faith to believe unless everyone involved has the same beliefs.

what does that even mean??

Absolutely.

But that doesn't answer the question.

Is it "pushing their belief" for someone to start a thread on the fire?

I read your statement as presupposing that there is no objective truth in terms of spirituality and religion and that all religions are social constructs. There is evidence for Christianity. It is from this body of evidence that Christ and then the Apostles taught. They did not appeal to blind faith but logic and intellect. It's unfortunate that most "believers" project their faith as nothing more than a hopeful wishing rather than an objective reality.

Rabid, proselytizing, bible spouting Christians are no better, than rabid, proselytizing, Marx-Engels spouting Democrats( marxists, socialists, progressives). They both KNOW BETTER than the proletariat/unbeliever. The Christians and the Democrats, in their minds are so morally superior to the bourgeoisie that they feel it is their duty to tell the unbeliever not only how to live but what to believe. And also what is to be rendered unto Caesar. Stunning supreme elitist arrogance. Even the 'Master Race' did not require every person to join the Nazi Party. I suppose there are Christian bashing atheists, I don't know any, speaking for myself only, I just would prefer not to be told what is best for me or my family, by Democrats or Christians. Good Christians lead by example rather than finger pointing and lecturing, shunning and witch burning. When you are stuck in the bible belt, the Christian principles of humility, love, and tolerance are harder to find than one might suppose.

Now now you two, no picking on the challenged.

I don't know where you would get that idea.
The believers here have taken the opposite stance.
Example,

1. We don't have a religion that teaches that people are nothing more than higher evolved animals.
Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler, Magaret Sanger, Bill Gates and his parents do. They made attempts to " lower the population" and see people as lesser than us.

2. Even those who are unborn and not contributing $ to society are made in the image of God and thus endued with special status different from the animal kingdom.

3. The most polite of society I've met have been open out of the closet Christians. The most back stabbing evil people that have treated others with the most malthusian, end justifying the means actions have been out of the closet homosexual agnistics and atheists. Those have been my experiences, however not all of them are in those same two or three categories.

You, being a gutless puke, push the gutless puke narrative. Your inferiority complex leads you to think you are lesser than believers, not the actions of us believers. The inner knowledge ot truth you posess convicts you of this, not us believers. We know there are none who sin as do us, other than those who commit the unpardonable sin and deny HIM.,

Your own concience, HIM, chases and convicts you to your sin, not us.

May GOD bless you as your needs may be, and may HE, your Creator who gave you life and a soul, have mercy on it, as may HE, have with us.

In JESUS'S Holy name we pray.,

Amen

“...the essence of Christianity.”

And here's the perfect example of what the OP was talking about.

Regardless of what he was talking about, it is written, "The truth will set you free". Make fun of it if you wish, you see, I know what it did for me.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Based on my attempts to understand your intent I'd rather you not make an attempt to further explain yourself. Reading that post was a painful exercise.

His statement is accurate. In many of the previous religious threads Campfire Christians explicitly stated Catholics are not Christians.

When's the last time you saw a frost giant wandering around?
I guess Odin and Thor win in the evidence department.

What is it, in your estimation...?

Sugar and Vinegar maybe? in some cases. I'd lay it more to the idea that people think that their personal sins are less egregious than the others.

IZH,
Doc presumed you were a non-believer and subjected you to the normal venom he spews in reaction to even the mildest objections to non-believers. At least he didn't call you "Satan's spawn", and accuse you of sucking Satan's dick like he does on a regular basis. By all appearances, he believes his Christianity justifies this behavior.

I'm not going to attempt to address a snippet of a quote from a post of mine. No context there.

I agree with much of what you have observed having observed it and seen the impact of that mentality. I don't believe that such things are examples of Christianity but rather examples of moralism and legalism, neither of which is the essence of Christianity.

New a girl that was a stripper, slept with anything on two legs, smoked weed & got drunk, cursed like a sailor, but was always in church on Sunday and went off on anyone who used God's name in vain! Was all about how much she loved the Lord and claimed she was a dedicated Christian.

I'm no religious scholar but I personally have different thoughts on being dedicated to Christ.

I know that God is merciful but he is also vengeful (he laid down 10 laws that seem to be pretty cut & dry)

You referred to “the essence of Christianity” here...
I’m asking you, in your estimation, what is “the essence of Christianity...?”