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I was OK to see my Dad get vaccinated, he is healthy 92. Why not. I figured on getting one ASAP. Now I am eligible to schedule an appointment for one, and can't seem to make the call. My gut tells me It's all a crock of sh it. Trusting any numbers published is suspect. Even a % of front line heath care workers seem to be declining the vaccine. Thinking on just saying fugg it.
How many of you are going opt out?
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Even a HUGE % of front line heath care workers seem to be declining the vaccine. Thinking on just saying fugg it.
How many of you are going opt out?
FIXT and no.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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https://ugolini.co.th/ugolini/geert...-vaccination-campaigns-against-covid-19/Geert Vanden Bossche: Vanden Bossche obtained his DVM at the Veterinary Faculty of Ghent and his PhD in Virology at the University of Hohenheim, Stuttgart. Following his postdoctoral training in virology, immunology and molecular biology at the Free University of Berlin and Hohenheim (Germany), where he subsequently held adjunct faculty appointments, he transitioned to the Vaccine Industry where he served various senior roles in both early and late vaccine development at GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines & Diagnostics and Solvay Biologicals. He then joined the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to serve as SPO in Vaccine Discovery for Global Health. He is founder of UNIVAC llc in the US and UNIVAC NV in Belgium and visiting scientist at the REGA Institute, University of Leuven (Belgium). Geert is board certified in virology and microbiology, the author of over 30 publications, and inventor on several patent applications. He has presented vaccine- and adjuvant-related topics at multiple international congresses
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Got mine Saturday, and I am the resident skeptic....so, just saying....
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Hard pass.
Too many other good options out there. It's a treatable disease if you have an IQ around room temp or better.
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Doesn't look like we are going to get the shot.
I am MAGA.
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As mentioned on your other thread...he ended with this.... Anyway, not as of now... "Paradoxically, the only interventon that could ofer a perspectve to end this pandemic (other than to let it run its disastrous course) is …VACCINATION. Of course, the type of vaccines to be used would be completely diferent of conventonal vaccines in that they’re not inducing the usual suspects, i.e., B and T cells, but NK cells. There is, indeed, compelling scientfc evidence that these cells play a key role in facilitatng complete eliminaton of Covid-19 at an early stage of infecton in asymptomatcally infected subjects. NK cells are part of the cellular arm of our innate immune system and, alike natural Abs, they are capable of recognizing and atacking a broad and diversifed spectrum of pathogenic agents. There is a sound scientfc ratonale to assume that it is possible to ‘prime’ NK cells in ways for them to recognize and kill Coronaviruses at large (include all their variants) at an early stage of infecton. NK cells have increasingly been described to be endowed with the capacity to acquire immunological memory. By educatng these cells in ways that enable them to durably recognize and target Coronavirus-infected cells, our immune system could be perfectly armed for a targeted atack to the universe of Coronaviruses prior to exposure. As NK cell-based immune defense provides sterilizing immunity and allows for broadspectrum and fast protecton, it is reasonable to assume that harnessing our innate immune cells is going to be the only type of human interventon lef to halt the dangerous spread of highly infectous Covid-19 variants. If we, human beings, are commited to perpetuatng our species, we have no choice lef but to eradicate these highly infectous viral variants. This will, indeed, require large vaccinaton campaigns. However, NK cell-based vaccines will primarily enable our natural immunity to be beter prepared (memory!) and to induce herd immunity (which is exactly the opposite of what current Covid-19 vaccines do as those increasingly turn vaccine recipients into asymptomatc carriers who are shedding virus). So, there is not one second lef for gears to be switched and to replace the current killer vaccines by life-saving vaccines. I am appealing to the WHO and all stakeholders involved, no mater their convicton, to immediately declare such acton as THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OF INTERNATIONAL CONCERN." Author: Geert Vanden Bossche, DVM, PhD (March 6, 2021) – https://www.linkedin.com/in/geertvandenbossche/
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Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!
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As mentioned on your other thread...he ended with this....
Anyway, not as of now...
"Paradoxically, the only interventon that could ofer a perspectve to end this pandemic (other than to let it run its disastrous course) is …VACCINATION That is easily dismissed BS.
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No, and Pres. Trump should have nuked Wuhan just to send a message to those Chi-Coms who unleashed this bio-weapon upon the planet.
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We got it, no big deal, I’m beginning to speak Chinese.
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As mentioned on your other thread...he ended with this....
Anyway, not as of now...
"Paradoxically, the only interventon that could ofer a perspectve to end this pandemic (other than to let it run its disastrous course) is …VACCINATION That is easily dismissed BS. But he is supposedly an expert, which is why Jaguratx posted the link..... Addition: And his credentials..
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I would really, really, really like to think the shot is a good thing. But I don't somehow.
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Decades of voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten us just that.....
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Ditto! My wife works at a local elementary school and she's been getting pressured to get the vaccination and she's refused to the dismay of coworkers. She feels like it's almost to the point of harassment...
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