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Difficult to hear you, but this post sounds dumb. Weak. Open the lid of the dumpster a bit so we can hear you.

Sounds like you bruise easily.




Your house cleaning suggestion was dumb ?

CCCC , are you feeling ok?
your responses are nonsensical.

Owning your dishonesty would
be character building and make
you a more credible Christian
would it not ? ..

It's really hard to believe a person like
you has a holy-spirit guiding them.

Yeah, that went down hill. He went from floral, verbose writing to single line taunts.

Thanks for asking, Starbucks - feeling great. But, you have read this entire thread and seems you still don't understand Christianity. If you did, you would know that the devil made me do it. He knows the way to the trash bag.

Yes, certainly downhill - you guys went right down to the dumpster.

(Is there a metaphor in this stuff?)

Bed time - good night - put the lid down and sleep tight in there.

Taking on fragile uppity CF Christians is easier
than shooting ducks on the water ..LoL

Wasn't the point about recognising your own faults as easily as you perceive them in others?

Reasonable folk support their reasonable claims
with reasonable evidence.
Wackos expect others to buy their extraordinary
claims with no supporting evidence.

the most ardent vocal Christians/believers here
are in the second category.

If anyone choses to believe them , one may as well
give merit to a Santa flying through the sky and Vikings
fighting and feasting in Valhalla.




Yet some who claim to be devout Christians with God
dwelling inside them have repeatedly argued they have
supporting evidence.

If I'm not mistaken Ace is calling BS on such claims.
It gets interesting when believers doubt believers..

To have faith is to believe without evidence....

OR - also to believe with all sorts of evidence?

Not necessarily. Archeologists continue to uncover relics and whole ancient communities that are proof of things the Bible tells us. And nearly 400 fulfilled prophesies over thousands of years regarding Jesus alone is an impossible act to follow, let alone deny. Particularly when many of them have odds so miniscule no sentient being would bet against them. Yet, many still do.

No, given evidence there is no need for faith.

Archeologists do not confirm the existence of a God or gods. There is no reason to doubt that the places, towns, cities mentioned in the bible existed. It's the supernatural element that is questionable.

I'm going to say the survival of the Jewish people as a separate entity and the miraculous reestablishment of the nation of Israel is proof enough for me. Their victory in the 1948 war should be enough for anyone to believe in divine intervention. Any other group would have been absorbed into the dominant population and disappeared.

Hitler had his own version of "divine intervention"

And the ones Hitler failed to kill became a nuclear super power in just over a generation. They are the wealthiest "race" per capita on earth, control the central banks, hold sway far above their numbers in our nation and many others. All this was predicted and is already or is coming to pass shortly. God and Israel will have their say and their due. I am a believer in the Jewish Jesus who preached salvation through true repentance and the law.

So god didn't mind sacrificing 6 million jews for the better good? Or he was a bit late with the intervention?

None of what you say proves the supernatural
acts of Jesus in scripture as being true...you
yourself even attribute Paul's alleged experience
on the road to Emmaus to schizophrenia.

Exactly how is victory in the war and the 1948
establishment of Israel a supernatural act?

War historians still debate reasons for the outcome
of the war , rationally putting forward their case, and
they seem quite reasonable without requiring one to
resort to wacko claims.

Without caring to exhaust any reasonable rational
explanations , one can easily claim divine intervention
for a number military conflict outcomes throughout
history just like some victors have done.





Looking at the list of successful invasions/takeovers
of Jewish lands through millenia, it becomes rather
apparent that God wasn't at all keen on intervening
on behalf of his chosen people.

People set about achieving that goal. Selection bias filters out hits from misses. Failure being dismissed as 'Gods Will' 'We are being tested,' The hits? Well, praise the Lord for His infinite mercy....never mind all the dead bodies.