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Now that would be cool: to own the earliest known Savage and the latest known 99. I think Rory should sell all his stuff and begin that quest. Here, I'll hold your beer.
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Earliest known Savage is serial number 1, and I don't think the owner will share it with me. Last produced Savage is known.. but no idea where it went to. I think Loggah has one of the highest serial numbers we've seen? My highest was a 1999.
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I think my 99c is 2001 i have to check. I think i might have the earliest 1895 that we have found also.
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Earliest known Savage is serial number 1, and I don't think the owner will share it with me. Last produced Savage is known.. but no idea where it went to. I think Loggah has one of the highest serial numbers we've seen? My highest was a 1999. So what are the earliest and latest member owned serial numbers?
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I have a 99C serial #F836,211 that letters as manufactured in September 1999. It's in 300 Savage and there was a discussion on here a few years ago that these rifles in 300 Sav were special ordered by some company. I haven't seen one but I have heard repeatedly that there were some 99C's with a G serial number and therefore later than this rifle.
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I think i might have the earliest 1895 that we have found also. Teaser! At least one of us yearns for more...perhaps in a new thread.
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Doug, You must be a mind reader !! just started a new thread.
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Ok Don, what's the serial # of the 1895
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David ,its posted in the other thread.
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yeah, I saw it when I went to that thread. If memory serves me we had a thread years ago where some one came up with a serial # in the 3200 range. As far as the numbering starting at 5000 and then going backwards after about 8200 I have the following historian letters: SN 5162 received at Savages offices Feb 22, 1896; 7844 received at Savage's offices August 7, 1896 and 4775 received at Savage's offices December 26, 1896. This third rifle seems to validate that the numbers started going down at about SN 5000 after reaching 8200+ or -. Do you have a letter on 3603? I'm going to Cody Tuesday. Maybe I can shed some light on this while I'm there.
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David, It is a case hardened 1895,shipped on 9 -31-1896. I have serial number 5266 that states it was accepted at savage 2-21-1896. I also have s/n 5449 which was accepetd at savage 3-5-1896. Don
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So what we have is the following. Serial # Date received at Savage's Office 5266 2-21-1896 5162 2-22-1896 5449 3-5-1896 6274 4-25-1896 7844 8-7-1896 3903 9-3-1896 4775 12-26-1896 We need more data. This limited data makes it sound like they started back at about 3000 and went up into the high 4000's instead of going backwards from about 5000. Incidentally 4775 was a SRC that was still in Savage inventory when they started producing 1899's. Therefore it could have been very late production. The factory shortened the barrel and installed an 1899 type bolt. It wasn't shipped until June 29, 1899. It was shipped to the Rice-Lewis Co. No location given but there was a company by that name in Ontario, Canada, near the guy Bill Rantz bought the rifle from.
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We need more data. This limited data makes it sound like they started back at about 3000 and went up into the high 4000's instead of going backwards from about 5000. Yes. (some early 5000’ish serial numbers) and a few others were accepted in October, 1895. Mass shipping started in Feb, 1896. In general, shipping seems to have gone from 5,000 to 8200 - then from low 3,156 up to 4,999. If I have that wrong, Joe or Rick will correct me. Rick, Joe, BillR, and others have been collecting 1895 dates for a very long time and have quite a number of them.
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Hopefully they will let us know. I am under the impression that they numbered downward from 5000 after reaching 8200.
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They were being delivered fast, but multiple 1895's in the 3000 serial number range start showing up before any 1895's in the 4000 serial number range show up.
And definitely NOT delivered in consistent serial number order..very intermixed. Rather than a 2 month range on a single ledger sheet, you're probably going to see accepted dates scattered over 7 or 9 months.
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We'll have to wait a while before I can look at the books in Cody. South Pass was closed due to a blizzard. If I sound like I'm in a bad mood in some posts today that's because I am in a bad mood. Damn weather.
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I'm thinking Callahan made a typo on my letter for my SRC 4736, not to far off of Bills and accepted Dec 31, 1896 yet shipped Aug 7 1896, do the math??????
And to throw a wrench into the gears that are turning right now, 9703 Oct bbl shipped Sept 3, 1896.
Have fun with that.
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The December date sounds right, Joe, the August sounds too early for that late of a gun. Wonder if ship date wasn’t actually 1897? Those ledgers are hard to read sometimes.
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Was Charles Newton involved with some of the cartridge development like 250 Savage and the 300 Savage and maybe others for the Savage 99 ?
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Was Charles Newton involved with some of the cartridge development like 250 Savage and the 300 Savage and maybe others for the Savage 99 ? Yes. 22HP, 250-3000 and apparently the 300 Savage. Though the final designs of all of those may have been the work of Savage engineers like Charles Nelson.
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