Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire If Russia moves on Ukraine - Should US intervene?

Ha ha, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line - Vizzini


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-invade-ukraine-000000688.html

Morally, I'd love to see the US and NATO intervene; but the problem isn't a moral one, it's a logistical one. You're not going to win a war against Russia, IN RUSSIA. It's literally in their front yard. Whereas the US will have to go 5,000 miles just to show up to the dance.

No. Absolutely not.

However, we should provide logistical support for the European Union when they set loose the dogs of war.





Which is another way of saying that Russia would be able to walk in without any outside intervention.

Why the [bleep] do you buy the propaganda? Why the [bleep] do you think Russia is morally in the wrong?

As they say in Portland: We don't need police. We need crisis negotiators. Quick! form a battalion of social worker paratroopers!

Sarcasm aside, as pointed out, intervention on our part would not only mean war with Russia, but we'd lose. Sadly, history tells us that every Democrat President for almost a century now has gotten us involved in a war.

We already "intervened". That's pretty much why there's a problem in the first place.

Yep. Exactly. Our CIA overthrew the democratically elected (Russia friendly) government of Ukraine.

Going after "The Biden Crime Cash Cow in Ukraine" will damn sure lead to US intervention. Wonder if Hunter will lead the charge?

I don't trust the American government to do anything. In fact, anything the American government does is detrimental to the American people.

So no. I don't want them to intervene anywhere.

No!!

Even if we "won," we would be bogged down for decades.

Russia is a nuclear power.

Ukraine inherited much of the Soviet Union's nuclear arsenal and was stupid enough to give it to Russia. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

If we should...tell the immigrant adults that’s where they’re heading. Then if they AWOL they’re really in the soup!!

Why in hell would we involve ourselves in a European affair where we have interests on both sides. Russia is no more an enemy or friend than the rest of those countries over there and actually provides a counter weight to China and the Moslems. We can't gain anything with any more foreign military entanglements and in fact have a huge amount to lose. If WW 1 and 2 are looked at from a results stand point we lost both. Europe and Asia were both over run by communists and the USA was left broke and with a lot of broken and broken hearted families.

Jews agitating for war,..how unexpected.

Don't expect Russia to do anything to counter China. As mentioned in another post, the whole world knows what's going on in America and nobody is going to go to war to support it.

In fact, Russia, China, and to a lesser degree Iran is working together to lessen the influence of American petro dollars.

There's definitely a "New World Order" being established. But it's not the one that the first President Bush envisioned.

IIRC, France would NOT let us overfly their Country on the way to bomb Khaddaffi.......... how many Euro Countries do you need to go through or over to get to Ukraine?????

If this needs attention, then let Germany, Italy, Turkey, Greece and the other NEIGHBORS handle it. Are we gonna sail into the Black Sea?????


NO, NO, NO..................

whatever the best course of action is, the harris/biden admin will do the exact opposite

i've learned a rule of thumb that is more reliable than not...the clueless will stew over a big decision, and among many choices will decide upon the worst

The Eu would do diddly if Russia invaded france much less ukraine

They did it on the basis of promises from the US, Britain - and Russia, that they would be protected from Russian aggression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

“The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.“

Hunter will “lead from behind” like Obama.

There is no war I would support with Biden as Commander in chief. Period.

Likely he’ll get us into multiple wars with the most powerful nations in the world aside from us, China & Russia.

True. The U.S. government is trying to shut down the second natural gas pipeline from Russia to Germany when its 90% complete,...to the detriment of both Germany *and* Russia.

The same crew that controls the American government controls the EU. So it's unsurprising that America's controllers are working to damage both Germany and Russia.

If the globalists keep pushing, they're going to cause a big chunk of Europe to turn their back on America and align elsewhere.

In fact, I think that's probably part of the big master plan.

No, but we will. Biden/Pelosi money farm.