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Well that is most interesting......

I like looks of the action in most respects but I do not like the recoil stops for the scope mounts. The cross slot of the Weaver base or the shoulder of the Talley are both better than a notch for a protrusion on the clamp. Nonetheless, it is undoubtedly adequate and not ugly.
I can't tell for sure but it looks like he has retained the coned breech which I would not have done. I like the gas vent hole on the off side. I couldn't tell, from the pictures, whether or nor a sear engagement adjustment was included but, if the trigger dimensions are good (and I assume they are), it is unnecessary anyway. GD

Thats what I'm thinking myself

The ring and base design are a copy of Burgess QR rings/bases I believe. I know he went that way as it’s the only QR system that he has been able to use under heavy recoil successfully.

Beauty but a bit expensive. Another option go with a Defiance Rebel with CRF and three position safety. It's under 2K

Those rings are D’Arcy’s original design whereas Burgess rings are a vertical split ring design and are certainly a mechanical mousetrap. A couple of years ago while I was in D’Arcy’s shop he showed me the prototype of his rings he was working on and they are a very solid design, as to be expected from his shop. He also had an early 3D printed prototype of his action then and it was a very impressive effort to say the least.

I'm sure it's just fine but I would have put the recoil boss on the solid side of the ring rather than on the clamp. In truth I would rather have a full width recoil stop but I realize, by going this way, he was able to keep the bases as low as possible. The system is quite similar to that on the BRNO ZKK but with the notch at both ends instead of just at the rear. GD

And needs a trigger, rings, and bottom metal.

Yes, sorry. I was referring to the base/ring interface.

It does come with a trigger

Only reason I know Is I ordered a Deviant GA Hunter with CRF and 3 POS safety and my grand total was 1750’ish with my Vet discount.

2 hours after I put the deposit down I called D’Arcy about a stock and he told me about his action

The Defiance is about 10-11 ounces lighter than the Win M70 Classic though, so that was another reason I went that direction.

A "Deviant" action? Why would any fine, upstanding Campfire members use a Deviant action?

MD

(PS, yeah I know. Auto-correct strikes again.)

Guilty...

It's why detachable magazines are so popular. Fish and Game departments outlawed the full magazine/ empty chamber in a vehicle concept.

Logical next step was to have a "clip" ready to slam home as you leap from your vehicle.

Naw... I got tired of my wife dropping rounds in knee deep snow when she drops the floorplate to clear her gun. With a "clip" she might only drop one clearing the chamber. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...

Could you describe what the bolt being bumped entails?

A system whereby two dovetail inserts are used to increase the diameter of the bolt at the rear. This keeps the bolt centered against the pressure exerted by the cocking piece when the rifle is cocked. Essentially, this is a retrofit version of Borden's "bumps". GD

Thanks greydog. First I've heard of it or Borden bumps. Sounds similar in effect to installing sleeves but perhaps more tolerant of field conditions.

That is the point. There is no difference in operation except that the bolt fits the bore closely when it is closed. GD

That is the point. There is no difference in operation except that the bolt fits the bore closely when it is closed. GD

How much is a Legend going for these days?

I'd love to get one of those actions, but wouldn't know what to build with it. I already have all the modded up Mod 70s I need- screw in a Krieger, chunk it in a McMillan.........can't think what else is needed no matter what year the action was built.

Maybe a 375 H&H but I've already got a Pre War 375 with a period correct Tilden safety lever on it (it's sitting in its travel/synthetic Echols Legend stock) and is going to Zim on Wednesday.

My Go to deer rifle is a March '36 Model 70 (ser# 109) - the wing safety fits fine under my 42 mm scope. My Go to all around rifle is a 300 Win Classic built by Charlie Sisk back in '04- lion, leopard, ibex, stag, been all over the world with that "modded" one. Got a couple-three Holehans as well, but they haven't made it in the rotation yet.

But I almost ordered a legend back when they were $8000. Last I checked they were what $15?