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For Whom the Bell Tolls. A great novel.

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Ya know, I think it's easy to plunder a man after he's gone. I would like to remember him as a great writer and a "man's man". He stated unequivocally that he could never be a Commie because he loves his liberty. powdr

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Is that femmy Ken Burns gay?

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No skilled homo filmmaker would bother to put out the boring tripe which Burns does.


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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Last episode tonight. I'll watch it again, but it's more or less ruining my appreciation of the man. As an English major in college, my profs adored him, which ought to come as no surprise, and he did indeed change the way novels are written forever. I see EH through his books, and what I see is a master of language. Let that be.


Pretty much this. The WAY he writes is so simple. Very little use of any extraneous words - every word has meaning. Truly a Master of the written word.

I don't really care about his 4 wives, his mental health issues, his son being a tranny or any of that other stuff. He lived, he died, and what remains are the words he left us. And I reiterate RR's observation above...let that be.


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I was surprised to hear Hem did not report things at the time and with held news because his career would be dead because of the libs in NY. He was always a liberal, commie. Hanging with Castro, etc.

Also that he lied so much to embellish his stories about himself.


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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Last episode tonight. I'll watch it again, but it's more or less ruining my appreciation of the man. As an English major in college, my profs adored him, which ought to come as no surprise, and he did indeed change the way novels are written forever. I see EH through his books, and what I see is a master of language. Let that be.


Pretty much this. The WAY he writes is so simple. Very little use of any extraneous words - every word has meaning. Truly a Master of the written word.

I don't really care about his 4 wives, his mental health issues, his son being a tranny or any of that other stuff. He lived, he died, and what remains are the words he left us. And I reiterate RR's observation above...let that be.


Well said. Agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Last episode tonight. I'll watch it again, but it's more or less ruining my appreciation of the man. As an English major in college, my profs adored him, which ought to come as no surprise, and he did indeed change the way novels are written forever. I see EH through his books, and what I see is a master of language. Let that be.


Pretty much this. The WAY he writes is so simple. Very little use of any extraneous words - every word has meaning. Truly a Master of the written word. - - - -

This observation reminds me of an excellent writer/teacher I new up in NM - one of his instructive pieces is named "Make Every Word Tell".


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Burns is a commie prick, and distorts fact and history


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I watched the last one tonight. I thought it was good, the alcoholism really ravaged his brain.

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I watched one segment, and was slightly surprised to rediscover why I never cared for Hem nor for most of his writing. He was a self centered narcissist and he wrote about people in his circle. Too often he wrote it in a boring, predictable style. When I read his stuff I feel like he is trying so hard to write it his way that I become conscious of the writer, which gets in the way of the story. It ain’t my thang, but I can understand why many like it. I don’t care to slog through Tolstoy either, for kind of the opposite style reason.


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Enjoyed reading all these comments! Thanks!!


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Much ignorance displayed by the helpless and hopeless. (Is that direct and pithy enough?)


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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
For Whom the Bell Tolls. A great novel.



Yes, not only one my favorite books, but one of my favorite movies as well.

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Hemingway is in his books, he's all over them.
Burns does sleepy very well. The Civil War was many things to many people. Burns, apparently, found it quite boring so that's how he painted it.

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Burns is liberal trash. Worse than a waste of time.


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Apparently he was more effective with a shotgun.


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I have found it interesting and just began reading A Farewell To Arms.


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I'm looking forward to the series! Have not seen yet.


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Originally Posted by CCCC
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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Last episode tonight. I'll watch it again, but it's more or less ruining my appreciation of the man. As an English major in college, my profs adored him, which ought to come as no surprise, and he did indeed change the way novels are written forever. I see EH through his books, and what I see is a master of language. Let that be.


Pretty much this. The WAY he writes is so simple. Very little use of any extraneous words - every word has meaning. Truly a Master of the written word. - - - -

This observation reminds me of an excellent writer/teacher I new up in NM - one of his instructive pieces is named "Make Every Word Tell".


EH was more than a master of language, he was a master of effect. He chose each word with intent, and aimed each sentence with utter discipline. In any of his works, using less words or lesser words is impossible. I don't think The Old Man And The Sea will ever be equalled.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
I watched the last one tonight. I thought it was good, the alcoholism really ravaged his brain.


Along with all the head injuries; great egotistical, self-centered, selfish writer with a very sad & dark life with a terrible ending at age 61.

From some of the film, you'd have thought he was 85 or so.

Burns is a big time fake azzhole, IMO, who badly skews things to his own ends.

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