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My 97 EVO soft tail with 87K miles burns a little- - - -mostly blowby into the air cleaner, but it leaks- - - -NONE.
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Jim in Idaho,
Was it you who bought a Yamaha TW200?
If so, how is it treating you?
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I like Harleys, but you don't have to go back 80 years for bad oil leaks, just look back to the 70's to early 80's when AMF had HD. I remember going to Stubbs Suzuki/Harley in Houston in 81 and all the new Harleys on the floor had oil stained cardboad under them. Harley has made quantum leaps since then! I rode a 79 AMF Sportster for years. It burned a bit of oil, but never leaked a drop.
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Jim in Idaho,
Was it you who bought a Yamaha TW200?
If so, how is it treating you? I have one. Love the thing. Currently in Kodiak. Too cold to ride right now
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Jim in Idaho,
Was it you who bought a Yamaha TW200?
If so, how is it treating you? Yes I did, but let it go. It was a neat motorcycle and I kind of miss it but that was the right decision for my situation. Sold it in the spring of 2019 and bought a Suzuki TU250X. Little single cylinder, air cooled street bike which is perfect for me these days. If my living arrangements ever change and I move closer to some trail country I might entertain the thought of another T-dub - if they can be had. That TW200 is living the life it was meant for on a cattle ranch near Cascade, ID.
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OK ..
I'm going to ''try'' and get one, crazy stuff right now, can't make heads or tails of what dealerships say.
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mmm.
cleanliness (clarity) of oil and amount of metal in oil are two very different measures.
for instance if one is made to run well no matter what octane you feed it, vs one that only likes high octane race fuel I might expect different oil appearances..
2valves, four valves etc also weigh in..
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Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
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With a performance machine, I'm a believer in an immediate oil change, no more than 50 miles.
Pistons/valves/cranks/cams/gears/shift dog/etc./etc. have done their thing many thousands of times by then.
A magnetized oil drain plug will show some scary stuff, but thankfully the magnet keeps metal particles from cycling through the engine.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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I imagine the closer the tolerances, the less likely you are to see combustion byproducts in oil, but there are a lot of assumptions buried in that..
but you can monkey with that with the conventional to full synthetic spectrum...
-OMotS
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Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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A reboot of a old thread & I had to go back & read to understand the original subject. Yep, my azzhole opinion hasn't changed a bit. I must have missed the part where it was indicated they all used the same lube so that one very big variable wouldn't be a player.
I.E. the worst oil in the best engine is likely to skew results.
Actually, the test meant even less when I think more about it. Different riders on each unit not likely even 2 of them would treat an engine the same, warmups, shift intervals, etc. etc.
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