|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2 |
LGS today, 8lb jug looking at me.....Do I need to go back tomorrow?
So far I'm a Benchmark guy, would love to try AR comp if I could find it,
50g, 69g and also about to start playing with 77's......1-7 twist...
I'm just not familiar with this powder, H series which should be temp insensitive,
How does it meter?
Grab it, or just be patient?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 945
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 945 |
If it was local to me, I would be there before you to grab it up. Works great in my 308s.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734 |
I would have grabbed it right away, good stuff, the H esp. meters nicer, but i would buy either one. One is better than none. If the shortage ends you would still use it.
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2 |
If it was local to me, I would be there before you to grab it up. Works great in my 308s. But I don't own a .308! Looking for input for 5.56.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,501
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,501 |
H4895 with 69 Sierra’s is the cats ass! Works fine with 77’s as well. I was using 23.5grs with the 69 Sierra’s.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494 |
H4895 with 69 Sierra’s is the cats ass! Works fine with 77’s as well. I was using 23.5grs with the 69 Sierra’s. I have never had luck with 4895 in our tubes. Always reached pressure before any top speed. Although it was accurate, it was slow as all get out. Both versions. I/H. And since AA is off my list... Good luck though and if I was in the need for powder, a slow load is better than no load
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 |
I use a basic load of 25.6 gr of 4895 and a 55 gr. Soft point...Ive cycled it through Ans and Ruger Ranch Rifles...and of course bolt guns. It works in all of them.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2 |
Extruded stick powder?
Meters so-so?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 790
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 790 |
Sticks are shorter than 3031 or 4064. So for .308 I throw charges.
H-4895 is also an "extreme" (ie., "temp-insensitive") powder, if that matters.
Don't see how you can go wrong with it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,106 Likes: 8
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,106 Likes: 8 |
H4895 with 69 Sierra’s is the cats ass! Works fine with 77’s as well. I was using 23.5grs with the 69 Sierra’s. It may be for you, but doesnt meter as well as other powders. Not saying I dont use it and drop right from the powder measure and go, but its not nearly as consistent as AR comp and the like. I've been using it in the 6x45 and it works fine, but then again powders like TAC, and AA2015 work better. I 'd buy it, if it was a good deal. Great powder in the 22-250
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,639
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,639 |
H4895 with 69 Sierra’s is the cats ass! Works fine with 77’s as well. I was using 23.5grs with the 69 Sierra’s. I have never had luck with 4895 in our tubes. Always reached pressure before any top speed. Although it was accurate, it was slow as all get out. Both versions. I/H. And since AA is off my list... Good luck though and if I was in the need for powder, a slow load is better than no load What rost495 said in spades.................it is very doubtful that you will ever reach book listed loads. And it has a very sharp, quick recoil impulse in an AR that I really don't like. They only way I will ever use it in an AR is if it's the last powder left on the shelf. MM
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2 |
220 for 8lbs, I might go grab it, but really wanting/rather to find 8lbs of AR comp.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,639
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,639 |
I have not seen any AR Comp anywhere, even with the search robots that I use for a vey long time.
Most other stuff comes up, more less regularly & goes in minutes, but no AR-Comp.
Other good powders that work reasonably well, more or less in preference order for me are 8208-XBR, VV-540, VV133, 135 (with 55-62 gr bullets), VV-140, 2000-MR, CFE-223, Benchmark, RL-15, Varget, Shooters World AR Plus, Tactical & Match Rifle.
MM
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2 |
Varget is suddenly available,,,, 1 lbers.......
opposite direction......
I have Benchmark on hand, I'm not in dire straights yet......
what to do......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,639
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,639 |
Varget & RL-15 are not as user friendly to feed through a powder feeder as most of the others are, but they both shoot well.
They are also a little slower than what you can get with some of the others as well.............2700 with an 18" barrel & 77 grainers is a little out of reach with both; if you push it that far, you will be into high pressure territory.
MM
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734 |
Varget is suddenly available,,,, 1 lbers.......
opposite direction......
I have Benchmark on hand, I'm not in dire straights yet......
what to do...... I would rather have H-4895 for 223's. If I had 8 LB's of it I'd be a happy camper for a spell. 223's , 30-30's, 308's. I'll take it. Some mentioned speed, that's a fact, 4895's have never been on top of the heap as far as speed, but that spot don't have to many powders in it anyway. Speed ain't everything, but poking nice little groups in targets is a plus. Temp stable powder is important up here in the frozen tundra when you can get it. A couple hun for 8 lbs in todays market? I'd still Grab it even though you found something else.
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,269
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,269 |
I wish I could by a ton of it. Yes, I like it.
Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734 |
I use a basic load of 25.6 gr of 4895 and a 55 gr. Soft point...Ive cycled it through Ans and Ruger Ranch Rifles...and of course bolt guns. It works in all of them. I use this load for 65gr Sierra GK's, have taken many whitetails with this load, shoots very nice groups, and good down to -20.
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,544 Likes: 2 |
grabbed some Varget, nothing saying I cant still go grab that H4895!
There's powder in this area, but no primers.......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 734 |
grabbed some Varget, nothing saying I cant still go grab that H4895!
There's powder in this area, but no primers....... We have nothing here. Not even shotgun shells.
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
|
|
|
|
421 members (17CalFan, 160user, 1Longbow, 12344mag, 10gaugeman, 10ring1, 37 invisible),
2,060
guests, and
1,111
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,377
Posts18,488,445
Members73,970
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|