24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,570
Y
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Y
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,570
Midbore338s comment on Canadians being more anti American than the other way around, is spot on in my experience, especially if you lean to the conservative side of the isle.

GB1

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 41,964
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 41,964
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by MidBore338
My paternal grandparents were Canadian citizens and lived in Canada. Spent much time there growing up and my parents still own the place.

Canada is not a bad place. Odd laws for many Americans and it’s very very liberal for the most part. Conservative Canadians are very much the minority.

Canadians and Americans have very different expectations from life in my experience and Americans are far more materialistic...well the baby boomers are.

While very conservative and extremely proud to be American I think Canadians are generally happier.

They tend to think America is all guns and crack. Something like 90% of em live within 50 miles of the border IIrc. Food in Canada is awful compared to the US. Well to be fair their dairy is better in my experience but their meat and seafood is terrible.

Americans have much much more freedom and I’m not just referring to the 2a.

Canadians are also far more anti-American than Americans are anti Canada. Not to be snarky but I believe it’s because Canada is internationally insignificant and they have an inferiority complex.

Canada is also loaded with Chinese and Arabs and pakis. We have the you know who’s

You’ve been hanging out in the wrong parts of Canada.


Damned straight, he has Jordan !!

I'll not get into politics, as we are only permanent residents, not Canadian citizens & therefore can not vote !

We are conservatives for sure.

We have traveled the world & love our new home in NWO.

As Australian citizens, Canada has far less taxation, than Australia.

15 years ago, my last Australian job, I was salaried @ between 70-85K depending on bonuses. My basic income tax alone was .49 cents on the dollar + GST/sales tax on everything we bought, other than unprocessed foods.

We bought an existing business that pays me significantly more & I also pay significantly less tax !

The business deal was done privately, on the basis of a cup of coffee, some discussion & a hand shake.

Bought 2 houses & sold 1, the very same way.

I guess, were I'm going is, that for us (including our 2 adult children) the cost of living here is an amazing change.

We have friends both sides of the border & as outsiders ourselves, definitely do notice some differences.

Oh, I definitely do not miss living in a City of 2+ million people ! Luckily, either does my beautiful wife.

In fact, she has flourished in our new rural setting.

Loves her puppers, chickens, vege garden, camping, hunting & fishing.

I'm sure you've all seen the pics I proudly post of her !


Paul.

"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 41,964
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 41,964
Originally Posted by yukon254
Midbore338s comment on Canadians being more anti American than the other way around, is spot on in my experience, especially if you lean to the conservative side of the isle.


Have not noticed this.

As an expat Aussie, I call a spade, a bloody shovel !


Paul.

"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,176
G
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
G
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,176
In these modern times, with more and more people able to make offensive comments from behind the safety of their keyboard, more people are anti-everything. Having said this, there is no question that anti-American sentiment is very common among liberal Canadians. Interestingly, anti-Canadian sentiment appears to be most often voiced by conservative or right-wing, Americans.
Americans have often been their own worst enemy when it comes to showcasing their country and culture overseas while Canadians were much better in this regard. I say "were" because, manners, etiquette, tolerance, and respect, have been tossed out the window by everybody over the last fifty years or so and now, we all do equally poorly. Ignorance reigns supreme! GD

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,570
Y
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Y
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,570
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
Originally Posted by yukon254
Midbore338s comment on Canadians being more anti American than the other way around, is spot on in my experience, especially if you lean to the conservative side of the isle.


Have not noticed this.

As an expat Aussie, I call a spade, a bloody shovel !


I wouldnt expect you would being an Aussie. Just one example out of many I could give, happened during the US election in 2016. Our local Ford dealership was taking signatures ( from Canadians ) on a big 50-foot long ribbon. The signatures were gathered as a protest towards the GOP candidates. The ribbon was eventually taken to Trumps inauguration.

Some of the things that have happened here during covid, have really brought this issue front and center. Americans, many of them service members, on their way to Alaska have been severely harassed on their travel through Canada. Last summer I stayed at a local hotel for work. The hotel was one of the designated places these traveling Americans could stay on their way through. I saw first hand how some of them were treated, and it was disgusting. Meanwhile, Canadian snowbirds have been circumventing the law to get themselves and their families to warmer climes since this started. Some are shipping motorhomes across the border, then hiring a helicopter to ferry them across. Go figure.

IC B2

Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 175
M
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
M
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 175
I should have noted...my Canadian experience IS narrow but somewhat deep. General Windsor area around lake saint Clare

Traveled some to the Yukon and BC but nothing more than a casual vacation. Spent a fair amount of time in Toronto...that’s a real dump like most big cities. It’s a lot nicer than Detroit I’ll say that lol

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 90
H
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
H
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 90
People are people, politics are politics...

The main difference is when they take away our guns in Canada, we will lay down and expose our throats... if they try to confiscate citizens guns in the USA, they are in for another civil war.

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,252
673 Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,252
I don't think you have to live in Canada or western Canada to realize its possible to get railed constantly from eastern Canada, the USA likes to spread their misery out so its more "equal misery to all".

I often find myself musing about how beautiful and prosperous my Country could be if Quebec were to simply become new France or whatever they like and leave.

Pretty much same schitt from the indians.

Who go's to bed every night thinking someone owes them something?...oh wait.

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,278
H
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,278
I have worked in most provinces and territories in Canada and a number of the states. We have toured and holidayed all across Canada and in the majority of the states. Our off continent trips have exposed us to a wide variety of people from many countries. With all of this jerks are present in every nationality as are good people. The good out number the bad significantly however the bad are the ones for some reason we have retained memories.

I find touring many areas of the US I can handle for max 3 days (New Jersey / New York) while other area I can spend weeks in (Wyoming, Arizona desert, Alaska - Kodiak Island). Same for Canada. The hospitality of Newfoundland is amazing, the scenery in the territories, fishing off the Queen Charlette islands, northern Saskatchewan. Yet there are areas my wife drags me to under protest - anywhere in Quebec or Toronto.

A couple of comparison stories -- we were on a cruise and the day excursion was to large ranch. Lunch was placed at big tables and we sat beside a couple from Florida and across from a woman and her daughter from Quebec. The two from Quebec spoke French all the time at the table -- finally the fellow from Florida spoke up and said enough -- you are sitting here speak English, I know you can as I have been around you and quit talking about us in French, thinking that we cannot understand you. The women from Quebec turned beet red, went silent for the rest of the meal. Afterwards the fellow from Florida told us that he understands French and the Quebecers coming down to Florida and ruining areas as they are pushing French only. He had had enough with some of the things they were saying about people on the boat and pushed back. This trip had multiple problems with various people from Quebec --so the ugly Canadians were present to all others.

Another trip we were on a very small tour -- 7 people. 5 from Germany and they could speak English, German, French and Italian --- they all agreed that since we could only speak English they would only speak English for the tour so we were included in all conversations. One day our guide cut our day trip short and said we had to get back to camp as a tour was coming in and there was a group of Italians on the tour. He said there would be no food left if we got there late. I thought he was joking --- OMG rude pushing in the line, butting in unreal behavior. That tour was about 50% Italian and 50% English and there was obvious tension between the two groups (we were up the Amazon quite a ways so they had been together on a small tour boat for awhile stopping at various lodges). I would not have been surprised at physical altercations.

Good people are everywhere --- unfortunately bad ones are often in the same spots.

On the political / economic side I worry for both of our countries. We both have very poor leadership. I do think the US has the ability at an individual level and state level to ignore and push forward. Canada the internal political favoritism and regional vote buying could lead to serious splits. The worst mistake we made was not supporting Quebec when they wanted to separate. Having that cancer gone the country would be different economically and politically.

I have had opportunities to transfer to the US and chose to stay here to support parents. While doing this I have built 3 businesses and we have done well. However if I had built those businesses in the US under more favorable tax structures we would have done much much better. My brother has relocated to Dallas and is now a US citizen and would never come back to Canada.

To me it is a wash and having Alberta pull out of Canada due to unfavorable treatment and join the US as another state would not be the end of the world as some people portray it.





Hugh
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,124
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,124
When I was rebuilding a Coleman stove I needed some green engine enamel.. It wasn't available in Canada, but it was in a NAPA store in Lynden Washington, just across the line.. I was surprised that the sale tags on the stuff was in two languages. We never see French in BC. Hmm, the States are more bilingual then we who are supposed to be officially bilingual.

I have been in countries where the only two words I knew were hello and thank you. and I got by.. I smile a lot. So going through Quebec on our cross Canada trip for the 150th, I approached Quebec like it was a foreign country. Boy , were we pleased when we hit New Brunswick.

Last edited by downwindtracker2; 04/10/21.

You can hunt longer with wind at your back
IC B3

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,291
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,291
i live in northern part of Minnesota i see no difference, can`t see why if we are from Minnesota or Canada what`s the big deal at the border ,in the days of the past there was no big deal , most of my grandparents were from Canada . only big difference is maybe gun control and no pistols allowed in Canada. Canadians should leave England period maybe become either their own country or be part of America ?


LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,721
S
Campfire Outfitter
Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,721
Originally Posted by pete53
i live in northern part of Minnesota i see no difference, can`t see why if we are from Minnesota or Canada what`s the big deal at the border ,in the days of the past there was no big deal , most of my grandparents were from Canada . only big difference is maybe gun control and no pistols allowed in Canada. Canadians should leave England period maybe become either their own country or be part of America ?


I agree that we should sever all ties with England. We have become more like the US in our music and culture. It happened with the arrival of cable, and accelerated with the Internet. I suspect you will see more people calling for this once Queen Elizabeth dies.


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 7,164
J
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
J
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 7,164
Curious, I didn't know Canada still had ties with England. My first trip to Canada was in 1973 and 2nd in 1980. We went to Alberta and BC. I recall beautiful country and very nice people. My last trip was in 95 to Alberta hunting. We met out outfitter in Edmonton and hunted north of the Peace R. In Edmonton I couldn't tell if I was in Canada or the Middle East. The outfitter was crooked and lost his license to outfit later I found out.

My wife has relatives north of the line and my Aunt, who is in her 80s now, is from Nova Scotia. She has always been exceptionally nice. I would love to go back to Canada sometime hunting or fishing with my kids, but since COVID I am really doubting that will ever be a possibility.

Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,961
K
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
K
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,961
Went to Calgary and Banff in 1988 from Yellowstone Park where I met my wife and worked full time, Went back up in 2018 to re-live our experience. What a dramatic sad change! Polite Canada was taken over by the immigrants the change was dramatic. The rude behavior shown by the new pushy immigrants was sad. The same thing has happened in Oregon and Washington where the polite conservatives sat back and let the rude brash outsiders come in and take over. Canada day was going on while we there and the polite Canadians were still there but in the background!


Big difference in overall tax rates that free health care mighty expensive! Love the people in YT and wish I could travel the roads that we help pay for!


kk alaska

Alaska 7 months of winter then 5 months of tourists
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,721
S
Campfire Outfitter
Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,721
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Curious, I didn't know Canada still had ties with England. My first trip to Canada was in 1973 and 2nd in 1980. We went to Alberta and BC. I recall beautiful country and very nice people. My last trip was in 95 to Alberta hunting. We met out outfitter in Edmonton and hunted north of the Peace R. In Edmonton I couldn't tell if I was in Canada or the Middle East. The outfitter was crooked and lost his license to outfit later I found out.

My wife has relatives north of the line and my Aunt, who is in her 80s now, is from Nova Scotia. She has always been exceptionally nice. I would love to go back to Canada sometime hunting or fishing with my kids, but since COVID I am really doubting that will ever be a possibility.


Hi. Canada is what is called a constitutional monarchy. If you want, you can read about it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_monarchy

Over the years, we have been loosening the ties. No one knows when the break will happen.


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,044
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,044
I bet a lot of ya'll liked my favorite TV show of all time, Northern Exposure. A few of the characters were from Canada. and some Canadian history and stories were worked into the show quite often. If we could eliminate governments and bad people, the border wouldn't matter. Both countries are beautiful.

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,741
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,741
It depends on what part of Canada is being compared. Just before all this covid-19 SHTF stuff, I spent some time in Quebec. While I enjoyed my stay a lot, it felt like I was in Europe. Way different than say Calgary. I would say the good folks living in B.C. and Alberta are more like us the Canadians in Quebec.

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,223
R
Campfire Ranger
Online Sleepy
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,223
Originally Posted by Ramsdude47
There are probably not too many Yankees on here that have lived in (or otherwise spent substantial time in) Canada for long enough periods of time to actually form a worthwhile opinion. Nonetheless, I expect a lot of strong opinions. USA is definitely #1 in thinking that we are #1.

As for myself, I strongly contemplated changing teams from the Yankees to the Canucks when the conman cheetoh got elected. Turns out it is fairly challenging and expensive, and you guys have both a higher cost of living and lower pay for Registered Nurses. That did not appear to be the case outside of BC/Alberta, but I wasn't too interested in signing up to freeze my ass off half the year to live in a boring place.


Even the Canadians didn't want you

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,252
673 Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,252
Generally, American's have more reverence for God than Canadian's. In their Country and state Constitution's, their implying right's come from God and not Government is one example.

Not sure how long that will last in the USA, but I figure any reference to God in Canada's Constitution wont be around long, not inclusive enough for the massive new immigration Trudeau is planning.

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,252
673 Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,252
I keep reading/hearing how nice Canadian's are, that is interesting.
If we look at a truly American sport, baseball seems like a sport played by Gentlemen, demonstrated by your not allowed any fights, during an entire game your not allowed to fight even once.

Lets have a look at a truly Canadian game, Hockey. You are allowed to have two fist fights during a game, the third fist fight and your out of there. Some of the best players were sent to the showers for three fights in one game.
Sure Gretzky scored alot of goals but I dont ever remember him getting sent to the locker room for having three fights in a game.
Dave (the hammer) Schultz was sent to the locker lots of times for having three or more fights, sometimes four or even five fights in a single game, making him a better player than Gretzky.

During old timers games, I have seen the referee and a player he sent to the penalty box get into a fist fight. The ref never got a penalty and after both benches emptied and everybody fought, the game resumed.
I know there are some nice Canadian's, somewhere out there.

Our other National sport, Lacrosse also allows fighting.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

625 members (160user, 1234, 007FJ, 10Glocks, 12344mag, 62 invisible), 2,634 guests, and 1,333 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,721
Posts18,475,781
Members73,942
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.134s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.9082 MB (Peak: 1.0862 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-28 23:51:19 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS