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You should listen more and type less.
If I did that, how would you ever learn?
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You should listen more and type less.
If I did that, how would you ever learn? Are your hands tired from having your ass handed back to you?
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You should listen more and type less.
If I did that, how would you ever learn? The gift that keeps on giving. LMAO
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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You should listen more and type less.
If I did that, how would you ever learn? Are your hands tired from having your ass handed back to you? LMAOROTF
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Can you research this and cite examples
Consider the case of Derek Chauvin. Chauvin exhibited no stupidity at all. His actions were in line with his training, as well as current case law.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Can you research this and cite examples
Consider the case of Derek Chauvin. Chauvin exhibited no stupidity at all. His actions were in line with his training, as well as current case law. Yet he will be convicted of something, and the reason for the conviction will be to quell the angry mobs rather than because the law and the facts were being correctly interpreted.
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Can you research this and cite examples
Consider the case of Derek Chauvin. Chauvin exhibited no stupidity at all. His actions were in line with his training, as well as current case law. But he will be convicted of something, and the reason for the conviction will be to quell the angry mobs rather than because the law and the facts were being correctly interpreted. Unfortunately for you your point wasn't proven by your example. Chauvin hasn't been convicted, nor did Chauvin shoot anyone
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Not only that, but this clown of a cop was an FTO. I mean we've all seen them (worthless, lazy, incompetent, idiots just hanging on to get the measly stipend) but gawd dam......this worthless sack was teaching people lol.
Says a lot about that department.
When I saw that body cam footage I had at least six perfect real-life examples of that type run through my head.
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Unfortunately for you your point wasn't proven by your example. Chauvin hasn't been convicted, nor did Chauvin shoot anyone
He likely will be, and we were discussing a broader principle.
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The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding. We knew this officer’s name almost right away, as every news media outlet in the country reported it. And she was charged within a day or so. We still don’t know the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt. And nobody in the mainstream media is even asking, as they don’t care. And the power’s that be have already announced that that officer won’t be charged. She was a white Trump supporter and her killer was black. Therefore the shooting was justified and the shooter will be protected at all costs... She was also a felonious burglar threatening the safety of elected federal officials. In all reality participating in insurrection and an attempted coup. (burglary: the act of entering a premises with the intention of committing a crime. the burglary is a felony, even if the qualifying crime is not) Because we do not like the people elected to congress, does not give us a right to threaten their security. If one does, one better be prepared to pay the price as Ashlee Babbitt paid. It was a good shoot. Do not be surprised if every person who entered the Capitol Building gets charged with Felony Murder in relation to Ms Babbitt's death. Remember, the price of liberty is the blood of PATRIOTS, as well as tyrants. And the standing government defines the crimes. Intentionally shooting an unarmed woman at a distance is a “good shoot”? Your a special kind of puke. Osky
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Unfortunately for you your point wasn't proven by your example. Chauvin hasn't been convicted, nor did Chauvin shoot anyone
He likely will be, and we were discussing a broader principle. YOU'RE discussing a broader principle (that has existed for decades). Everyone else is discussing Lil Miss Taze Ya.
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Unfortunately for you your point wasn't proven by your example. Chauvin hasn't been convicted, nor did Chauvin shoot anyone
He likely will be, and we were discussing a broader principle. You a fortune teller now
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Mistakes happen. Add extreme stress and fluid/ dynamic circumstances and bad things happen. She (officer) had less then 1/2 of a second to make a decision and try to deal with that issue. Welcome to the LE world. Remember that many of the things we do are lawful but still awful. Mistakes can cost you, your life or another LE partner. Or an innocent citizen and last the bad guy/ suspect. The job could not be more complex and no day is like the day before. Remember that if you were given those circumstances to make decisions in your chosen field or career you will have bad outcomes. There is no way, not to have bad outcomes. Even the haters cannot deny that set of facts. Last, remember that we in the LE profession can be charged for the things we do when we take action and things we should have done and did not. Not an easy job these days, Well said. Except she said "Taser" at least 3 to 5 times. That most certainly takes much more than 1/2 second to say even when excited. How she could have mistaken her Glock for her Taser is as out there as forgetting her left from her right. There was no need to have gotten all worked up like she did either. The kid did not have a gun that she had seen and I don't believe one was found either. She should have stayed back and let the cops do their job instead of jumping in. But the cop that couldn't get the cuffs on the kid should be flipping burgers in McDonalds. He and her was the one that made this what it was.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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His previous arrests and convictions are irrelevant.
They might, had she shot him on purpose, rather than let him loose on the streets again. But yes, totally irrelevant as she makes the claim of accidental discharge. I sure am glad I never had one of those. Use of Force scenarios are like snowflakes and divorces. No two are exactly like and trying to move pieces that weren't moved is a waste of time. His previous arrests and convictions have no relevance in this case.
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Unfortunately for you your point wasn't proven by your example. Chauvin hasn't been convicted, nor did Chauvin shoot anyone
He likely will be, and we were discussing a broader principle. You a fortune teller now Well, I don't know about that, but I did make a prediction. I guess we'll see if I'm right.
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But the cop that couldn't get the cuffs on the kid should be flipping burgers in McDonalds.
I'd be real cautious about passing that judgement. Unless you've put cuffs on struggling subjects a few dozen times in your life.
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I guess we'll see if I'm right.
That would be refreshing.
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She was most definitely negligent which resulted in a homicide.
It resulted in a death. Homicide requires mens rea. The minimum mes rea for homicide is reckless disregard for human life. No level of mens rea, however, was in evidence here. It was simple negligence resulting in death, like a doctor, at the end of a double ER shift, grabbing the wrong hypodermic needle off the table and injecting it into the wrong patient. Negligent homicide is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice she was obviously scared schitless!~
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She was also a felonious burglar threatening the safety of elected federal officials. In all reality participating in insurrection and an attempted coup. (burglary: the act of entering a premises with the intention of committing a crime. the burglary is a felony, even if the qualifying crime is not)
Because we do not like the people elected to congress, does not give us a right to threaten their security. If one does, one better be prepared to pay the price as Ashlee Babbitt paid.
It was a good shoot.
Do not be surprised if every person who entered the Capitol Building gets charged with Felony Murder in relation to Ms Babbitt's death.
Remember, the price of liberty is the blood of PATRIOTS, as well as tyrants. And the standing government defines the crimes.
I'd like to hear what you base that on.
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I guess we'll see if I'm right.
That would be refreshing. You mean because it's refreshing for someone to be so consistent in this world of inconsistency?
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